And who owns Raymond? Toyota of course. I can remember raymond sideloaders were in a class all their own. For example we used to call houston sideloader city because all of the raymond sideloaders there. They could be serviced in the field as the customers usually had overhead cranes. to be fair they had their issues but overall you could not beat a raymond sideloader. +I do not how they perform today but back when i spent a lot of time on those the customer loved them. They were proud of their parts back then and i am sure they still are.