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I got a Hyster H120XM, K005D, GM V6 with the impco system equipped, with a no start situation while it's hot. It turns over and if you play with the primer on the vapourizer, then it will catch and fire up.

I've verified that the ign system is working ok. Checked that the lock-off was letting fuel in, inspected the diaphram in the mixer, and someone else put a vapourizer on it already.

Now this truck has whats called the "Open-Loop" fuel system on it. The spring side of the diaphram in the vapourizer is sealed off, and has two vaccum lines; one going to the governor, with a normally-open, power supplied-closed switch to close that vaccum line off. The other line @ the vapourizer goes to the clean air intake, with a normally-closed, power supplied-open switch to open the diaphram to atmospheric pressure.

Anyway, when I take the atmosphere supply switch out, the thing starts no problem. The power being supplied to these switches are
-for the governor switch: 0V with key off, 6V with key on, 10V cranking, and 12V running.
-for the atmosphere switch: 0V key off, a momentary 12V with key on, witch goes back to 0V. ( I mean momentary, to quick for my meter to read) 12V cranking and 12V running.

My resistance at each coil in the switches is 24ohms and 27ohms respectivly.

I suspect that the "atmosphere" switch (I'm sure thats not what it's called, but thats what I'm calling it.) coil is getting weak when it heats up, closing off the supply to the vapourizer, but if you get the truck running, then it will continue to run.

It seems to me this system is just acting like another lock-off for the truck, supplying vaccum to the vapourizer, or closing it off from the atmosphere, basically shutting the truck down. What is the purpose for this system?

I think I'm just gonna cap the line @ the governor, open the one at the vapourizer, and call it a day, but if you've run into, or have any info. I'd appreciate it.
  • Posted 19 Sep 2008 07:38
  • By jess_w
  • joined 30 Nov'06 - 6 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
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No frost, no leaks, no codes, good spark and no leaks spark wise.

Like I said, I can manipulate the truck in order to run fine. And as of right now, I've got the "atmosphere" sending switch bypassed in order to get the customer going. I'm not one to "throw" parts at the thing until I make certain of it. SO I don't wanna call it a faulty sender until I'm sure.

Has anyone else run into problems with this "Open-Loop" system? Or can anyone explain it to me. I'm sure it's an emissions thing.
  • Posted 19 Sep 2008 13:37
  • By jess_w
  • joined 30 Nov'06 - 6 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
is the vaporizer frosting over or feel cool?
do you have any intake leaks?
does the wrench symbol stay on while the engine is running?
do you have spark?
check the engine in a dark area running and make sure none of the spark plugs are grounding to the block

dont cap anything off youll just create more problems
  • Posted 19 Sep 2008 12:18
  • Modified 19 Sep 2008 12:27 by poster
  • By justinm
  • joined 13 Apr'06 - 604 messages
  • New York, United States
New York, New York its a heluva town..you know that The Bronx is up..and I'm Brooklyn down
have you tried shorting the diagnostic plug to get the blink code.that should point you in the right dirrection.
  • Posted 19 Sep 2008 08:31
  • By tugmaster
  • joined 25 Aug'08 - 73 messages
  • United Kingdom

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