Linde (& Baker) E 14-02:
No Hydraulics Fault - 335 Series

Hi Guys,

We have a Linde E14-02 S/N H2X335L01555 with a loss of hydraulics - no lift, no tilt and no sideshift (not that it has a side shift carriage fitted, but does have a lever). The power steering works fine as does drive in both directions. The tilt did work for a while, but has now also dissapeared, but we have never had lift.

Truck is currently plugged into a battery (50.2 volts) independent of the machine (so no possible leak off) and the battery discharge meter reads full.

If we plug into the lift circuit, we get fault codes 35, 36, 37 & 38 which all relate to the levers. The lift and tilt levers calibrate ok and drop to the required 0% neutral setting on the hand set.

Voltage to levers measures 14.3 volts across 2X3:1 - 2X3:6.

We've checked continuity between plugs:pins 2X1:10 - 2X3:2 and have continuity 0.03 ohms. and between 2X1:11 - 2X3:4 0.03 ohms.

With lever at netural position, voltage at pin 2X1:10 = 7.2 volts and same for 2X1:11.

Does anyone have a wiring diagram for this machine (so we can self help) or alternatively any suggestions.

As always, any help would be massively appreciated.
  • Posted 16 Jul 2021 01:23
  • Discussion started by Dez_A
  • Middlesex, United Kingdom
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Hi Dez_A,
Please check your email "dez_at_andytruc dot com" for further instruction on this matter and all service docs expected.
  • Posted 28 Jul 2021 02:11
  • Reply by Nunanemo
  • Vietnam
Cheers
Nuna - Ho Chi Minh City
Email: dairongservice1973@gmail.com
Website: xenangdairong.com
Hi Nunanemo and thanks for taking the time to reply, it's always massively appreciated.

We don't have Linde Truck Doctor programme on laptop, but do have a hand held programmer which we've used quite successfully on other Linde machines that it also covers, and pretty much reports on the same processes.

The DC/DC converter checks out ok at a stable 23.85 volts.

The wiring on the truck is good and we've briefly bypassed the truck loom to check, but as expected it makes no difference.

If we had a spare Control Logic to use it would be a simple job to check, but unfortunatly we don't so will have to keep going without until we've cleared all other possibilities before gambling on $$$ for a Logic unit that we just have a niggling feeling won't solve the issue.

Ideally what we would like is a correct wiring diagram for this truck so we can circuit test and fully understand the whole circuit properly. If anyone has a copy it would be greatly appreciated.

Regards
  • Posted 28 Jul 2021 01:14
  • Reply by Dez_A
  • Middlesex, United Kingdom
Service life of a forklift is proportional to how well it is maintained.
Hi,
Your truck E14-02 S/N H2X335L01555 was built in the year 2000.
I have seen you have checked almost everything.
You said " If we plug into the lift circuit, we get fault codes 35, 36, 37 & 38 which all relate to the levers "
=> I assume that you have seen these codes via Linde Truck Doctor, haven't you?
Yes, these codes are all related to the signals of hydraulic levers.
But I see that you have already done everything which we need to check.
As my experience, you should try to check some additional steps as below:
1) Try to check the output of the DC/DC Converter to see if it is correct 24VDC or less...if it is less than 23.7VD e.g. =23.6 or 23.5VDC => you should try to change another one for testing. I do agree that you have got a 14.3 VDC power supply for the joysticks. Yes, it is correct, but sometimes if the 24V power supply for the LLC is too low it also makes the LCC lift controller crazy. Therefore, let check it out.
2) Basing on your measuring results, it seems to be all the wiring are OK but in some cases are not since I used to face with some case likely this before: power supply is OK, the signal value is OK, Continuity check is OK but the error codes are still there.
=> You should try to change new wirings for the power supply and signal for the joystick => only need to change some piece of wire from LLC controller tp 2X3:1 & 2X3:6 as well as from LLC pins 2X1:10 to 2X3:2 and from LLC Pin No. 2X1:11 - 2X3:4. This is because the wirings are out of the lifetime or oxidized internally and have very bad signal conductivity.
3) Lastly, you should borrow another LLC to replace for checking or send your LLC to the agent or your friend ask them to check if it is still in function.
  • Posted 26 Jul 2021 04:00
  • Reply by Nunanemo
  • Vietnam
Cheers
Nuna - Ho Chi Minh City
Email: dairongservice1973@gmail.com
Website: xenangdairong.com

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