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MHE Fleet Consultant ?

Have spent many years in the MHE/Service Industry in the UK picking up lots of knowledge with regards to truck type and application issues,improvement areas,damage reduction, cost reduction/truck upgrades to improve safety/reduce costs debt resolution etc relating to large fleets of trucks.

Seems to be a lot of companies in the US offering consultancy services relating to Fleet Management advice but doesn't seem many in the UK?

Interested to find out if there appears to be a Market for this in the UK,if anyone has used someone for this type of service what kind of costs are charged. Info from the US would be usefull as well.

Are costs based on % of cost reduction,daily/hourly rate or one off cost subject to Fleet size?
  • Posted 31 Aug 2013 05:23
  • Discussion started by DirectorLMA069
  • YES, United Kingdom
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Good shout your right I need to brush up on my maths. Oops. Good job it wasn't an invoice. Ha ha. But your right even with my bad maths. Would take a lot to build up that level of business.
  • Posted 14 Sep 2013 09:16
  • Reply by DirectorLMA069
  • YES, United Kingdom
Your maths need some work. 85 ×1000 = 85000
185 ×1000 = 185000

Around £90 to £100 k per year. But agree in the UK it would take considerable time to build a company upto that level of truck numbers
  • Posted 14 Sep 2013 05:49
  • Reply by sean3
  • lancashire, United Kingdom
Thanks Old Tech Guy. Very interesting information and Fleets of over 1000 are seriously large fleets. Over 30 on one site would be considered large in the UK. Is that 85 to 185 dollars/ truck per annum or per month? If per annum that sounds realy cheap if your supplying the service described and completing regular site visits etc. This would mean 1000 trucks are only going to give you 18500 dollars income per annum which wouldnt cover one mans annual wage. This is something I was considering if there was a Market for in the UK to do on a self employed basis but starting off would have to be on a % of savings, hourly rate or fixed cost per project. Would take years to get the size of your companies business. Thanks again for the information though.
  • Posted 13 Sep 2013 23:23
  • Reply by DirectorLMA069
  • YES, United Kingdom
I work for a fleet management group in the US. We manage several fleets of over a 1000 trucks and several smaller ones as well. Customer interest in Fleet Management usually follows Corporate cost cutting initiatives or the accounting department's insistence that something be done to improve the situation. Another circumstance which generates interest in Fleet management is the inability to meet production standards with the current fleet and little or no capital available for replacements. Services include data accumulation, report generation, optional consolidated billing, monthly /quarterly reviews, fleet rotation tools & recommendations, site visits and service work order audits. Web based reporting is the Graphic User Interface (GUI) most expect but the actual tool of choice by our technical analyst is either Excel or Access depending on the project at hand. Costs range from $85-$180 truck/yr.
  • Posted 13 Sep 2013 08:08
  • Reply by OldTechGuy
  • Illinois, United States
Thanks for the effort and taking the time to reply Edward. Very interesting response and you have made a lot of very good points about the US Market. Love the En Trap a new er. Many thanks.
  • Posted 10 Sep 2013 08:58
  • Reply by DirectorLMA069
  • YES, United Kingdom
I am under the impression that this may have a great deal to do with the local government's laws about responsibility for what is said and claimed.
In the USA there is very little that can be done about someone's specious claims (like 'we have the experience to help you reduce your liability', when really their 'experience' involved working for a company that went out of business due to the expense of not reducing their liability) where in the EU and UK, such a claim may be likely to have some proof behind it, in the USA, if you asked to openly provide such proof could get you sued in a SLAPP type lawsuit.
So, in the USA, a lot of "entrepreneurs" [en-trap-a-newer] can start a company that basically pays your bills and charges a % for paying the bill and calling a contracted service company, after you call them (same call as if you had called the service company, only adding another layer of confusion and $ between the end user and end repair person). This is then called 'fleet management consultancy'.
I regularly see people who now claim "expert" whom their greatest expertness in the forklift industry was in being at a forklift company that had some success for which they were not responsible (an example would be that they had been in the accounting department at the time) yet now work that "success" to show they should be followed as experts in the field of forklift company management.
Where [in some places] they may be required to be able to prove their expertise, in the USA, they would only be required to prove they can hire an attorney to muddy the water enough so the question of their expertise does not get asked.
As far as I have seen (which may be a sort of 'pinhole' vision, forest for the trees and all that, from my position), "what kind of costs are charged" is based upon either a monthly prorate of what is basically an extended warranty or on what the actual charges by the contracted service company or dealership is charging and any added services delivered beyond the repair service (so if you wanted training [etc.], that would be figured, marked up and added in).
  • Posted 7 Sep 2013 23:21
  • Modified 7 Sep 2013 23:24 by poster
  • Reply by edward_t
  • South Carolina, United States
"it's not rocket surgery"

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