no but I used to work for a toyota dealer.

GREGR,

Do you work for Mr. Ryan in Portland?

hydraulic temps in 24/7 extreme operations were found to be high. NACCO already had a cooler designed for that application when they designed the truck and it fixes the issue. other than that these trucks are doing great.

I'm sure that there are some salespeople in SC with herpes. It wouldn't suprise me one bit.

I will not name customer names but I will tell you that there are customers in all parts of the US that are not only cancelling orders for these new Fortis trucks, but they are actually trying to get out of leases on new ones that are less than 6 months old. I also know of a customer that just refused delivery of a very large quantity of trucks because he was told that they were going to be the XM model, not the Fortis. The reason that they refused the Fortis models is because of thier experience with them at other plants. One of the main problems is severe overheating and the inabilty of Hyster to correct the problem. I am not saying that Hyster is not attempting to correct the problems, I am saying that they have not been able to FIX the problems.

I'm hearing horror stories about the Fortis (H70-120).

Sorry Rat, I was talking about the mini levers Hyster has used on the H190HD since 1999.

Hostile in Oregon?

Try hostile in here!! :-)

People like what they like. I have no problem with techs feeling that the product they pimp is the best.
what do you think I do.

If you like Toyota trannys, go ahead pick a $20,000 rebuild job against a $5,000 rebuild.
You like Lindes? Go ahead and prefer a truck that will eat $10,000 worth of brakes in a matter of seconds.
Pick a linde hydrostatic that'll lurch forward when you're inching and pull a lever.
Pick a linde that you can't tow without spending 10min's adjusting valving, and pumping up the brakes.

Pick a toyota with $5,000 worth of stability components over a nice simple piece of rubber that is designed to push the steer axle out as the unit leans.

Wether or not you want to admit it, the Fortis series are good trucks. The rest of the industry is playing catchup for now.

BTW, saying that Hyster took the operator side control idea from Yale is a huge load of you know what. When I worked for the Yale dealer many years ago, we'd lose sales to Hyster because they had side levers....

seat side hydraulics are different from mini levers 68stang.....

I think Hyster got seat side from Yale
mini levers idea from Linde
bad try at a hydrostatic tranny from Linde

NACCHo tried to make a hydrostatic tranny feel with clutch packs....and 21 qts of oil and a can bus system and combi cooler and sensors out the wazoo....

If that is what Hyale wants to do, fine by me.

just don't tell me they were original ideas......

Lucky, Looks like mike n did a great job of answering your question. You should have been given that same answer from your local dealer. If you have a service manual you should be able to diagnosis any problem from the dash with no problems. I am sure the dealer would be glad to send someone out to go over the machine with your mechanic. The software you are talking about is to let the dealer add options to the machines if wanted. Lucky have you run into any concerns your mechanic has not been able to work on yet?

EasyM, I believe Hyster has used seat side Hydraulics since 1999. The Fortis transmission was developed by Hyster. No copy.

Thanks Mike, You have been more help than the local dealer. I will let you know if I have any more resistance. As you can tell by the postings, it is a pretty hostile enviroment out here in Oregon

So Toyota is trying to copy Hyster? Who do you think that Hyster has tried to copy with the new transmission and finger tip hydraulics? Hmmmmmmm????

Ifak is the usb-canbus adapter.
The cable from the ifak to the truck?
rs232 - deutz? hmmm, proprietary? no?

You're pickking fly **** out of pepper...

ifak is the name of the cable manufacturer

software is another issue........

proprietary

99.99999% of the adjustments and troubleshooting can be done right through the dash.

All you need is the password.

The factory default is 55555, but it should not get to a customer that way.
Once it's out of warranty, the dealer can't have any problem with giving you the code to the unit you own, if they do, post it here and I'll get nacco to kick some butt.

We (sHyster dealers) are not allowed to sell the software or the adapter.
Sorry, but that's how it is.

But you don't really need it.
The codes can be looked up, just ask...

Hey 68Stang, I have 3 of the Fortis 6500 lb pneumatic forklift in my fleet. I have a mechanic that works for me on a full time basis.
I am looking for the software that goes with these trucks. I have contacted the dealer that I purchased these from and was told that only dealers have this and is not available to customers That means that my guy can not work on these units and have to call the dealer to send someone out. It is the only fork lift that I have ever owned that he is not able to work on.

Can you help?