I think your words is a little subjective and one-sided to evaluate Chinese forklifts.With the large-scale development of Chinese basic industry during these years, China already have ability to make high quality forklifts. of course have artificial advantages,that's why most of world brand forklifts such as Toyota, Linde, Mitsubishi, Clark etc. already set up factories in China during these years, except the key parts, most of other parts also purchased from China local market, which promote Chinese forklifts technical level and international design ability.

We can't ignore the fact that the chinese have massively upped their game in most fields so their forklift fits should be no different.

We cannot underestimate the strength and the amount of Chinese machines in the market and we are fully aware that parts for these Chinese machines should be available at all TVH-branches all over the world.

Feel free to contact me at any time.

Parts guy: You just re-affirmed what I stated on grey market lifts. Every manufacture makes different levels of trucks, and Octane/Goodsense is the lift designed for the North American Market. I favor the brand that suit my customer's needs the best. Thank you for sharing another source. I stated "I believe" because multiple global sources turn out different results.....to which I have control of none! One thing to note, Octane is the supplier, Goodsense is a manufacture. Much like CAT is a supplier but doesn't Mitsubishi manufacture for CAT? In stead of trying to be the source of facts, I focus on being a source of options in machines. Speaking of which. I send a lot of machines to CA, send me your contact and I will add you in my vendor list. I like to keep support services close to my machines. What product lines do you supply? We sell all brands so I have customers for them all. Have a good day guys, and we are all in the same industry. Lets support each other for the sake of our customers. I don't know a fork lift collector like a hot rod guy, who would be in a forum just for fun. It's all about the users of our services and how set them up for success.

Roscoe,

You might want to check your facts before posting.
Yes Toyota builds "grey market trucks" but these are built for specific countries and then imported into the USA. Other words not meant to be here in the USA.

Regarding the the list of top 20 I do not see Goodsence even on the list unless it is part of one of the other manufactures list.
See ranking here
www mmh com/article/top_20_lift_truck_suppliers_2015
Remove the space in between www mmh and com and replace with periods.

Goodsense is a world brand with an established world market. Octane is a North American brand produced by Goodsense with a very specific build spec that elects to run premium parts such as the GM 3.0 and Cummins Turbo power plants, Cascade Side Shift, etc. Octane lifts are 50 state emission compliant allowing for direct import etc. That US specific development cost a lot to develop and test, making entry into the US slower then other countries. However no expense was spared. With all major brands, different stratifications for production exist. I am not partial to a brand, I'm partial to heathy machines to suit my customers needs and budget. So when I say "Even Toyota produces a grey market or disposable lift" I am not trying to start a shoot out. But grey market or disposable, OCTANE LIFTS CERTAINLY ARE NOT! I believe globally, note BELIVE...globally Goodsence has jumped from 12 in the top 20, to number 8. I BELIVE Toyota has dropped to 7. OCTANE by Goodsence (If you will) is specific brand for the North American market. Build with parts, service and pricing for the North American business owner. We have youtube videos and quotes, materials available for every one to see what makes Octane highly competent and highly competitive. Ever wonder why CAT runs a Mitsubishi or now Nissan? Octane didn't invent the wheel, but Octane paid attention to it. Where are our cars made? Made out of country by American brands, for American's. Octane accommodates a lot of customers where more well known brands don't, particularly price, warranty, service and value at that price point. We are welcoming sub-dealers to allow Octane to help more customers get into new. Our dealership sells healthy machine of ALL brands. We just so happen to be the flag ship dealer in Octane. Any one wanting to learn more can speak with the VP of Octane directly. He is accessible by phone or email. We believe that Octane lifts are top tier product produced in partnership with Goodsense. In conclusion, we are working hard to make Octane more of a well known name and thank you for asking BirdDog86. Come drive one.

Octane forklifts? Based on your website your "Manufacturing Team" puts out 20,000 machines annually. Placing it in the top 3% of forklift manufacturers in the world. So how is it Octane is not a more common name? I am assuming you are having Goodsense private label for you.

Ma'am, reach out to me. I have units, parts and the warranty/service network on hand.... as I am the Flag Ship Dealer for Goodsense. We have a dedicated brand manager that can proficiently educate you on the various options that Goodsense offer. From high end trim options such as GM, Cummins and Cascade down to the grey market options some suppliers elect run (as mentioned by another poster). If you want professional insight, contact me directly. My email can be found in my profile, oe simply send me your contact. I send Goodsense products all the time out of the port of Miami.

Some thing to note: I deal in all product lines, I feel I have a solid basis for my opinion on the majority of machinery on the market.

Thanks Guys,

I'm going to try 1 unit, I will also establish a clear channel for spare parts and obtain all the manuals even prior to ordering the unit.

Baoli trucks are part of the Kion group same as Linde and Still

Just an after thought for everyone. When it comes to Warranty, they're only as good as the company backing them.

Chinese lifts will only get better as they consistantly improve with each passing month. They can ship parts overseas for a few dollars...cheaper than we can send within our own countries....but just dont try sending anything back!
Buy a used Toyota? Make sure it's not one their "ghost" trucks, that has no service manual available anywhere, anyhow!
I've bought $1500 in service manuals and CD's from Toyota for one truck, all wrong. Even giving them serial # and model, taking pics, NO GO! Third Toyota used truck like this, try fixing it when you cant even order a simple part. You buy directly from Toyota and Most parts manuals don't even show actual parts on truck. You still have to call them.
I cant say how hard it is to service Chinese lifts, but i'm frustrated with the big Orange, and they are supposed to be the best.
The Chinese are definately good at shipping, fast and low cost. I've bought so many items with free shipping, that arrived within a week. Getiing parts from them should not be an issue.
They have that advantage. Make a deal with them, demo some trucks, get extended warranty. They may be willing to give deal....just dont go full hog, buy other proven trucks to be safe.

Lifter,
The top 10 reflects sales volume by dollars and not quality, I'm clear on that. I am not saying that a Chinese forklift is better or could be better than a Hyster or Linde etc.
I'm not comparing Goodsense or any Chinese brand to Linde etc.
My question is if these units are of an acceptable quality to provide a years of reliable service. Referring back to the Top 10 manufacturers, there is or must be an awesome amount of repeat business from their customers on some of the Chinese brands in order to climb the rankings because I believe no matter which country they sell to, if they are build poor quality, their market share will slip downwards..not move up, Thanks for your view. They do have older technology, no frills designs, I am not looking for the most advanced forklift, just a reliable unit. I agree that parts availability is a concern.

Your talking about top ten machines supplied not top ten on quality or reliability. I've yet to see any Chinese brand that's anywhere near a match for a Linde, Hyster or Crown etc I've worked on a few and net impressed at all buy Chinese at your peril

The maintenance will be the tough part here. If you look on their website they have links for "Dealer Networks" and "Parts and Service" but not much depth after that. Vandentop is right, parts may be difficult to come by. It might be best to ask these questions to the person selling you these trucks.

Guys, can we get a little more specific and move away from the general suggestions that all Chinese forklifts are poor quality? Have you seen that in the top 10, 2 companies are from China? I think that the Chinese may have some good products and its wrong to make a blanket statements, I see that the Venezuelan government bought 39 Goodsense Forklifts in November, are the Venezuelans crazy?
A new Chinese forklift with the right maintenance..still no good?

You would be making a serious mistake buying any Chinese forklift, especially since you are not on the mainland. If your business requires a forklift, it requires a reliable one. You would be better served buying a used Toyota than a new Chinese lift.

Parts might be difficult to find

Easy... Chinese quality! in my opinion I just trust in well know brands.