Parts guy: You just re-affirmed what I stated on grey market lifts. Every manufacture makes different levels of trucks, and Octane/Goodsense is the lift designed for the North American Market. I favor the brand that suit my customer's needs the best. Thank you for sharing another source. I stated "I believe" because multiple global sources turn out different results.....to which I have control of none! One thing to note, Octane is the supplier, Goodsense is a manufacture. Much like CAT is a supplier but doesn't Mitsubishi manufacture for CAT? In stead of trying to be the source of facts, I focus on being a source of options in machines. Speaking of which. I send a lot of machines to CA, send me your contact and I will add you in my vendor list. I like to keep support services close to my machines. What product lines do you supply? We sell all brands so I have customers for them all. Have a good day guys, and we are all in the same industry. Lets support each other for the sake of our customers. I don't know a fork lift collector like a hot rod guy, who would be in a forum just for fun. It's all about the users of our services and how set them up for success.