Discussion:
Forklift Speed

Any reasons why most forklifts do not have speedometers?

Our safety dept would always harp on us to limit our speed to a certain speed limit in the warehouse but how would we know if there are no speedometers?

Anyway, if we reduce the speed by tinkering with the engine, does it affect the performance of the forklift (apart from its speed of course)??
  • Posted 3 Aug 2006 12:39
  • Discussion started by chewingyu
  • Singapore, Singapore
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Hello, I am trying to increase the speed of one of our forklifts.

it is a Linde ER18-AC
serial: A15020W0093

I am in need of a 4 digit password in order to do so and am unable to aquire this code.

Is there anyone who will be able to help me!

Thank you all.

-Rusi
  • Posted 1 Oct 2011 06:46
  • Reply by rusi_k
  • Pennsylvania, United States
FYI - Almost all RAYMONDs can have their speeds modified through the onboard display.

On a Reach, hold the horn and sideshift right; do not stand on the deadman and now turn on the the key switch.

The truck will beep and flash an underscore. Toggle up to the value of your numerical password (if you don't know it, call your dealer rep and s/he will tell you the factory default password - this info should not be available to your operators).

Now you will be in the Config mode. From here you can change the speed on your RAYMOND forklift trucks without laptops, service techs or special software.

RAYMOND 4700 sitdown trucks also are designed to automatically slow down when going around a corner. Safety officers love this feature!

I hope this helps.
  • Posted 16 Sep 2007 01:55
  • Reply by Solutions
  • California, United States
http://www.raymondhandlingsolutions.com
Sorry if I offended. I think SpeedShield solves the problem. Not sales talk, but true solutions to the safety issue of travel speed. The Occupational Health and Safety Association sites 1 of every 5 forklift accidents reported occur due to traveling faster than a safe speed. If it were not important, why are Hyster, Yale, Caterpillar, Mitsubishi, Clark, Nissan and all the other major forklift manufacturers providing the ability to limit speeds of their forklifts. It is for safety reasons. Not all companies could use the same maximum speed and keep productivity up. So dealers can set the safe maximum travel speed on their new trucks according to customers situation. Older trucks don't have this option and one top speed is not always the best solution. Different zones within plants could use diofferent top speeds. Drivers aren't doing this or speed would not be the reason for 1 out of 5 accidents. They have been trained, they just are not doing it. We offer a solution. Do you have another solution?
  • Posted 16 Aug 2007 13:53
  • Reply by t_troutman
  • Illinois, United States
Terry Troutman
+1-630-590-3984
terry.troutman@speedshield-usa.com
www.speedshield-usa.com
I was under the impression these arent meant to be "Discussion" forums, not sales forums. Why is it that speedshield never offers advise just sales answers?????????
  • Posted 16 Aug 2007 13:18
  • Reply by michael_j
  • Victoria, Australia
Just checked out Speedshield. Looks like an expensive system to me, and not UN-susceptible to vandalism/tampering as it can be accessed easily after opening up engine cover/seat.
  • Posted 16 Aug 2007 11:40
  • Reply by chewingyu
  • Singapore, Singapore
Operators do not like restricted speed, because it slows their Hydraulic functions or impeeds acceleration with a full load or up an incline. SpeedShield speed control mounts under the floorplate, where operators can't get to it and it allows full acceleration until it reaches maximum allowable speed. Operators accept this system easier. Contact www dot speedshield dot com... for more information.
  • Posted 15 Aug 2007 22:40
  • Reply by t_troutman
  • Illinois, United States
Yeah, I am kind of done telling operators not to speed. That seems to be the position of my management. So, now we install speed limiting devices on all our Toyota forklifts to limit speed to 10km/h.

But guess what, we are frequently encountering tampering of the device. Wires get yanked out, fuses get removed. We even had to rivet in metal bars across the dashboards to prevent them from prying open the covers to access the wires to the speedometers. Even that didn't stop them and we get damaged bars!

Who knows, I might even resort to changing the whole transmission to have only 1 gear!! (Is that possible??!)
  • Posted 15 Aug 2007 12:50
  • Reply by chewingyu
  • Singapore, Singapore
tier 1 trucks were pretty simple i dont remember being able to limit speed thru the ecu (at least on the mistus)
on tier 2 mitsus the tranny is intergrated into the software thru the vcm (vehicle control module)
i do believe (but not 100% sure) that u can limit the speed thru the VCM

most electric trucks you can limit the top speed too thru the software
including ge controls (limit the % of power to the motor on the throttle and disable the a1 function or rabbit speed)

supplemental speed limiters are pretty much for older machines at this point in my opinion

as far as seat belt switches and operator presense switches
operators will figure out how to bypass the seat switch in a day and the belt goes behind the seat and stays pluged in all the time
even on the linde er18 where the computer recognizes that you didnt unplug the seat belt and wont go until u release the belt and put it back in operators just reach down pull it out and put it back in with the belt behind their back or the seat back

i tell them it would just be easier to wear it then to go thru all that
if that encouragment fails i describe in vivid detail how a forklift tips over and tends to snap down like a mousetrap
and that it is most likely that they will be decapitated, disemboweled, or their skull will be crushed open like a watermelon thrown from a 5 story building

the latter tends to have more effectiveness
but most people are dumb and stubborn (including managment) and this almost too often proves to be a deadly combo
  • Posted 13 Feb 2007 12:29
  • Modified 13 Feb 2007 13:05 by poster
  • Reply by justinm
  • New York, United States
In response to your inquiry, with permission for the mentioned manufacture of above subject, I post here their website.

wwwdot loadingzonesafety dotcom

http://www.loadingzonesafety.com/
  • Posted 13 Feb 2007 12:06
  • Modified 14 Feb 2007 13:02 by administrator
  • Reply by Drlifttruck
  • Texas, United States
Lift Trucks all the same, just painted different colors.
Doc
Email: kulsh@forkliftservice.net
I am not aware of what you are referring to. What is the product? Who is the company?

Terry Troutman
630-209-9772
www.SpeedShield.com
terry.troutman@ speedshield.com
  • Posted 12 Feb 2007 13:51
  • Reply by t_troutman
  • Illinois, United States
I do bieleve that most of the manufactures of tier 1 and now tier 2 forklifts have a speed reduction system.


I suggest, that if speed is a major concern, those of concern contact the manufacture for a solution.

I am aware of a company based in TX that offers an aftermarket solution to speed control, plug braking on IC trucks and speed limiting. If you would have interest contact me, my email is posted in my profile, and I will assist you.
  • Posted 10 Feb 2007 12:57
  • Reply by Drlifttruck
  • Texas, United States
Lift Trucks all the same, just painted different colors.
Doc
Email: kulsh@forkliftservice.net
Forklift operators do not always follow rules. By placing speed limiting devices and driver restraint interlocks, they can't even start the forklift without first sitting in the seat, then fastening their seat belt. any deviation disables the forklift! Management can go do their job and not babysit their employees.

www dot SpeedShield dot com.
  • Posted 2 Feb 2007 01:14
  • Reply by t_troutman
  • Illinois, United States
In regard to speeding and how to control it, I agree with the thoughtful discussion offered by inventoryops, below. At LIFTOR dot COM, we have found a workable solution to the apparent dilemma of imposing "speed limits" while demanding high productivity (number of units relocated per unit of time) from employee operators.

I believe that it is important to recognize that safety and productivity can exist at the same time and place.

The LIFTOR vantage point resolves the dilemma by recognizing, instructing, and encouraging several operating principles and practices that must be used together for this to work, as follows:

1) When there are NO hazardous conditions likely to exist within the intended travel path, and the load is stable, driving FAST on a forklift truck is a GOOD and productive action that is highly valued by management and operator alike, and

2) The hazardous conditions under which the operator MUST drive "slowly" are to be identified, described and agreed upon by both operators and management in advance. (for example, pedestrians, debris, inclines, personnel doors that open into the travel path, intersections, other moving or fixed equipment, and curves in the travel path, are common hazards.), and

3) When encountering ANY of these hazards while on-truck, the operator must take a prescribed and agreed-upon action that does NOT include high speed driving, such as, STOP outside of one truck length to the hazard, move at "creeping speed" or "inching speed" until the condition is cleared., or follow the "LIFTOR 3 and 1 DEAD-STOP rule".

Since the vast majority of forklifts don't have speedometers or speed governors at this time, the operator will know s/he is going too fast if they are ignoring the above hazards and not taking the appropriate, prescribed and agreed upon action.

Thus, the dilemma is resolved as operators and managers are ensured that it is valuable to have operators who will go either fast or slow or stop under APPROPRIATE operating conditions.

For more information about LIFTOR principles and practices, surf to LIFTOR dot COM.

Best wishes,

Joe
  • Posted 13 Jan 2007 13:36
  • Reply by joe_m
  • New Jersey, United States
www.LIFTOR.com
Operator/Examiner Certification for In-House Supervisors
jmonaco@LIFTOR.com
I work for LINDE in the u.k In my experiance drivers drive foot hard down no matter what,all new LINDE'S electric+i.c can be slowed down with laptop at the press of a button,this only affects the speed of the drive not the engine rpm so hydraulic operation is not affected,drivers soon work out how to adjust engine speed back if done mechanically.If max truck speed is set correctly to suit site conditions their is no need for a speedo because as said earlier drivers only go flat out all the time.As to wearing seat belts unless companies strictly enforce drivers to wear them and use disaplinary action in my experience drivers don't bother wearing them. A.J
  • Posted 3 Jan 2007 06:24
  • Reply by Herald
  • lancashire, United Kingdom
Thanks for help.
There is only one way to stop drivers speeding and that is to stop them by controlling the maximum vehicle speed and there is only one way to ensure they wear seatbelts and that is to control the vehicle operation (e.g lose throttle) if they don't. There is one company that has won awards for it's product which does control vehicle speed by zone as well as and by lift and load. Also they use RFID tags and GPS to define speed zones not infrared which can be tampered with and doesn't always work. See www dot speedshield dot com. There are major companies using it.
  • Posted 2 Jan 2007 09:36
  • Reply by JohnG
  • Victoria, Australia

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