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Forklift Access and Monitoring Systems

What are the most important features customers look for in implementing a forklift access and monitoring system? Is it speed control, impact, software features, installation or just cost?
  • Posted 1 Jan 2014 05:36
  • By GameChanger
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  • Posted 11 Jan 2014 01:10
  • By GameChanger
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One of the customers I look after specced a factory fitted optional safety package on there new fleet of reach trucks.

Then shortly after the new fleet was up & running they had 1 part of the system disabled as they didn't like the way it affected productivity.

They had a demo truck for a month with the exact same features on, why they never picked up on this before ordering a load of them I've no idea.
  • Posted 10 Jan 2014 01:13
  • By Forkingabout
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Technology has it's place. It finds value only when coupled with operators who have been trained properly and the company leadership truly values safety. Too many times I've seen lazy, irresponsible management experience an accident and their first responses; "can't we limit the truck?" or "let's redesign the layout of the facility" or "let's add mirrors, lights, and technology". None of that will have a significant impact on the environment if proper training is not happening and management is actively demonstrating their desire that everyone go home every night and have supper with their families... and not ending up in the emergency room or worse... the morgue. You can't get that with technology alone.
  • Posted 10 Jan 2014 00:05
  • By tjoldman
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bbforks just about everything i quoted is public knowledge but i pulled that information off AisleCop's site. It is a very intuitive site on safety.
  • Posted 9 Jan 2014 09:47
  • By GameChanger
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The reason for my last post was to show how subjective safety & such are. Everyone wants safety & cost reduction but at what price? The answer is- as cheaply as possible, don't affect production & don't make mangement responsible.

Gamechanger- you mention there are almost 900,000 forklifts in operation in the US- where did you get this information?
  • Posted 9 Jan 2014 09:27
  • By bbforks
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Customers love technology- until they have to pay to fix it!
The Toyota Spot Me system is worth looking at, it can really help reduce the chance of collisions between forklift trucks & also collisions between forklift trucks & pedestrians.
  • Posted 9 Jan 2014 04:28
  • By Forkingabout
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Forklift accidents account for 61,800 minor injuries, 34,900 serious injuries, and 85 forklift related deaths every year, according to OSHA estimates. With almost 900,000 forklifts in operation at any given time in the Unites State, those numbers amount to a 1 in 10 chance that each forklift working in your facility will be involved in an accident this year. Thats not great odds for the safety record at your facility someone at your facility could be injured this year due to a forklift accident.

Forklift collisions account for about 46% of total forklift accidents including crush injuries where personnel are trapped between two forklifts, between a forklift and stationary surface, or where pedestrians are struck by a forklift. The numbers clearly show that the odds are against you unless you take action to mitigate those risks. We all know education is an important element in increasing safety, but it works only as well as the training done it and the attentiveness of both drivers and pedestrians. More must be done in key areas of collision prevention, traffic control and pedestrian safety measures in order to reduce your risks. Statement by AisleCop
  • Posted 9 Jan 2014 04:23
  • By GameChanger
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well bbforks
thats what happens when you put bean counters in charge of these things. All they see is numbers going across thier desk and they have no real clue about their operations. And even though you had the numbers right there in front of you showing them you have to figure, you're just a technician trying to tell them about numbers and they don't want someone like you telling them how to run thier business. I run into this all the time myself too. To them i suppose it may be threatening or they look at you as a lower life form being a lift truck tech. I just don't know exactly what it is that makes them that way but it is annoying none the less ;o)
Maybe they need to take time to compare their data with yours to believe it.... shrugs
OR... maybe they need time to sort it out to make it look like they came up with these figures to make themselves look good instead of giving you the credit... which goes back to my original analogy above..... lower life form ;o)

In any case you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink nor swallow it soooooooo......

just tell them and let it go is all you can do i guess :o)
  • Posted 9 Jan 2014 04:12
  • By swoop223
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I serviced a fleet for a major trucking company at one time & one of their old timers did- in fact- perform the pre-check before his shift like clock work. He liked "his lift" & didn't like using another when his was down.

I can tell you his repairs/downtime were the least of the fleet. I brought this to mangement's attention after finding out he was getting a hard time because he refused to do any moves with his lift before the pre-check was done.

Their answer was that the pre-check was just a formality & was "only really needed- like once a week". Even with the numbers in front of them, they still didn't see it's importance.

This is the same company which broke by b**** every time a lift went down, wanting to know cost & downtime- go figure.....
  • Posted 9 Jan 2014 01:43
  • By bbforks
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Customers love technology- until they have to pay to fix it!
The cell phone, soda, coffee and cigarettes check list is almost all employees Pre-Op check. We are just trying to find a way to monitor it. LOL
  • Posted 8 Jan 2014 23:39
  • By GameChanger
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Yeah, I wish someone would send me a video of a forklift operator doing a bona fide preshift inspection of a forklift. I have never seen one.
The only preshift I ever see is the operator making sure they have their cell phone and soda/coffee/cigarettes on them.
(only slightly exaggerating here)
  • Posted 8 Jan 2014 15:14
  • By L1ftmech
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  • Tennessee, United States
Its very rare for me to see an operator actually carry out a pre shift check before using a forklift.

One customer I looked after in the past would send managers out in to the warehouse & stop random operators, ask to look at the pre shift check card & then the manager would check over / test the truck.

If something was found faulty by the manager that the operator had ticked ok to the operator then had some explaining to do as to why the truck hadn't been defected.
  • Posted 8 Jan 2014 05:07
  • By Forkingabout
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Well, if the system is set up properly and has the capability, you can write the question so the operator has to read it and not just answer yes to everything. For example you might ask "Are the Breaks in non-working condition" and if he says yes the system shuts down. Also you can record the time it takes for the operator to conduct his pre-op check list and if if is done to fast it will show up in the report.
  • Posted 8 Jan 2014 04:38
  • By GameChanger
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yes forkingabout having the buttons change around does make the operator have to think a bit more and actually read whats going on 'onscreen' but that still depends on if he's being honest when it comes to answering 'yes' or 'no' to anything.
He won't make that mistake but once before he figures out whats going on and learns to just hit 'yes' on every question.
;o) hehe... know what i mean?
  • Posted 8 Jan 2014 04:27
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  • By swoop223
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One good thing I do like about the TK5 pre op check is the YES & NO buttons on the touch screen swop around at random so an operator cant just sit there tapping the screen.

Also depending on how its set up, answering a NO to certain items on the pre op check will disable the truck or restrict its performance.
  • Posted 8 Jan 2014 01:09
  • By Forkingabout
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Well the Davis Derby TK5 system is in control of driver vehicle access, pre-operational checks, vehicle shock and impact reporting, driver training needs, speed control zoning, vehicle service and maintenance schedules; real time.
  • Posted 8 Jan 2014 00:13
  • By GameChanger
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Im not a fan of the wireless log on / off idea.

As an engineer I have 5 different Davis Derby keyfobs on my forklift keys as they all do different jobs, a wireless system would just get confused.

The current system of presenting a fob to the reader & pressing the button to switch on works fine as it is.
  • Posted 7 Jan 2014 23:15
  • By Forkingabout
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the 'perfect system' ?
gee... i'll have to think a bit on this one

one system i know of does have wireless incorporated into it's function so when impacts happen it notifies management at the time of impact with all the required information such as operator ID, impact time, force, speed etc.
I know of one company that has these and it has made a large difference in thier accident/damage ratio since they were installed.
This system is on a shockwatch model that uses the standard green 'programmable' key access.

I suppose though if any improvements could be made on anything a more secure access system would be one that could utilize the wireless system with a sensor that could sense a transmitter built into the operators key or some other device that when he got on the truck it would pick that up and identify him as the operator without his direct intervention and log him into the truck, and when he exited the truck at signal loss it would log him off.
I know this type of access would have its own set of problems if more than one access signal was detected in the vicinity of the system but the concept is sound. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to get that sorted out to set it up to allow only one access at a time. Maybe devise a method to have a 2 part access, detect the signal and then require the operator to verify it by entering an access verification code via his key or manually on a keypad.

Frankly i'm not sure of any good way to improve the wireless system but thats just a thought that came to mind.

You'll have to give me a few to think some on this.
  • Posted 7 Jan 2014 21:11
  • By swoop223
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Cameras can't see everything. They can't see down every isle and they can't feel impact. Cameras are another crucial piece of the puzzle but not everything. Plus, employees forget about cameras, but if they have to log into the forklift everyday, they will be a little more careful everyday.
  • Posted 7 Jan 2014 07:19
  • By GameChanger
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  • Florida, United States

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