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Error Code E-27

My Caterpillar P6000 shows me error E-27 (Sensor Signal Error POS). Someone could tell me -What does this error mean? and 'What is POS? and-How i could repair it?
  • Posted 14 Feb 2014 00:06
  • By Tony_RD
  • joined 14 Feb'14 - 3 messages
  • Florida, United States
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Edward T is right on the money with his thoughts on tune up. I have had this Position sensor error on many occasions on numerous trucks. This is often caused by a bad coil on one of the plugs or even a misfiring plug. Anything that can change the speed of the crankshaft sensor relative to what the computer is looking to see. If you do end up changing the crankshaft position sensor, i recommend changing the camshaft position sensor as well.
  • Posted 25 May 2014 10:22
  • By Whitebuzzbait
  • joined 21 May'12 - 15 messages
  • Florida, United States
Edward T is right on the money with his thoughts on tune up. I have had this Position sensor error on many occasions on numerous trucks. This is often caused by a bad coil on one of the plugs or even a misfiring plug. Anything that can change the speed of the crankshaft sensor relative to what the computer is looking to see. If you do end up changing the crankshaft position sensor, i recommend changing the camshaft position sensor as well.
  • Posted 25 May 2014 10:13
  • By Whitebuzzbait
  • joined 21 May'12 - 15 messages
  • Florida, United States
yep that's a high possibility RCAV8TOR, i made it a point to keep a kit in my toolbox because i've had too many pull the threads when removing the spark plugs to not have one handy. All it takes is one to ruin ones day ;o)
  • Posted 27 Mar 2014 14:23
  • Modified 27 Mar 2014 14:24 by poster
  • By swoop223
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If it one of the early model P6000 i bet with 7000hrs he is going to be or is already familiar with 14mm heli coils by now.
  • Posted 27 Mar 2014 13:02
  • By RCAV8TOR
  • joined 12 Nov'11 - 366 messages
  • Alabama, United States
What i used to do all day now takes me all day to do.
worn out spark plugs is usually the culprit in this case from what i've seen. I would only replace the coil packs if they check bad.
what happens when this code is set is the ecm is taking readings from the crank sensor and cam sensor and trying to compensate the dwell because of the widened gap in the plugs. If they get worn too badly it over compensates "out of range" from what the ecm expects to see as an acceptable range and sets the code.

try replacing the spark plugs first, then if you continue to have issues troubleshoot the coil packs and replace any that check bad.
  • Posted 14 Feb 2014 23:03
  • By swoop223
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  • North Carolina, United States
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if it was me, I would spring for the entire set of coil packs and spark-plugs, and figure that every 7000 hours or so you would do that instead of a few 2000 hour tune ups.
  • Posted 14 Feb 2014 05:36
  • By edward_t
  • joined 5 Mar'08 - 2,334 messages
  • South Carolina, United States
"it's not rocket surgery"
Dear Edwards, thanxs for your time.

7,775 Hours, a litle old, but its work for me. I will do what you recommended.
  • Posted 14 Feb 2014 04:29
  • By Tony_RD
  • joined 14 Feb'14 - 3 messages
  • Florida, United States
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first question, how many hours on this motor?
this -code- refers to the crankshaft position sensor, and can be caused by a bad sensor or wire to the sensor, but experience has shown that it is more often caused by what in 'old school' would be called a 'bad tune up', or the need of a tune up. (stray spark not going to the spark plug looking for 'other/easiest path to ground' finds a path through the wire harness, sets the code).
If you have not done a full tune up on this truck, even though it feels like it is running OK, and you have over 3000 hours, do the tuneup first, and please use the correct OEM plugs, not some auto parts 'will fit' plugs, as the 'will fits' cause problems for the next person to remove without damaging the head.
  • Posted 14 Feb 2014 00:21
  • Modified 14 Feb 2014 03:04 by poster
  • By edward_t
  • joined 5 Mar'08 - 2,334 messages
  • South Carolina, United States
"it's not rocket surgery"

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