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a question about impco lp vaccum operated lock valves

I was working on a Clark c500 80 today that has an impco LP system, model 100 carburetor, cobra vaporizer (the one that looks like a model j, but different pressure), and standard vacuum operated fuel lock valve. It had an intermittent no start problem which I traced back to the fuel system, it seemed to be a faulty fuel lock, so I installed a new one and went on my way after starting and stopping the engine several times.

I was called back several hours later for the same problem, and just as before, the fuel lock wouldn't open even though the vacuum line was firmly connected on both ends and the starter was spinning the engine at a good speed.

I took a vacuum gauge reading and found that it was barely making enough vacuum to move the gauge needle, but if I used my hand vacuum pump to open the lock valve, the engine would start up normally and stay running with the vacuum hose reconnected, even though the gauge was still showing almost no vacuum. When the engine runs, it seems to run pretty good for a Jurassic age flat head I6, so I doubt that the compression is low or that the diaphragm in the carb is punctured, also the gasket between the carb and manifold is sealing well and the throttle shaft is not worn out.


So my question is how much vacuum is needed to properly operate one of these lock valves? And if any one has a good theory to explain the low vacuum problem that this engine is having I'd like to hear it.


My next question is how did Clark stay in business as long as they did building crap like this? Was there a time when an updraft carb mounted below the top sill of the frame in a narrow channel and right next to the exhaust system was actually a good idea?
  • Posted 19 Aug 2009 14:24
  • Discussion started by fixitandy
  • Pennsylvania, United States
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OK I am going to switch it to an electic fuel solenoid. IIRC most of these conti engines are already using them anyway, I always thought that they had them because they were converted before the vacuum locks were in use, but maybe not.
  • Posted 20 Aug 2009 21:42
  • Reply by fixitandy
  • Pennsylvania, United States
I know of a customer running a fleet of over 50 c500s 24/7 and won't trade them in, (Clark [within the last 2 years] made them an offer I could not have refused) and while I can not say the name of the company I bet over 1/2 of the people reading this forum have some of their products in your shop. They took the inching control off this truck when they got them, so have never had the trans oil contaminated by brake fluid.
  • Posted 20 Aug 2009 06:42
  • Reply by edward_t
  • South Carolina, United States
"it's not rocket surgery"
x3

I know they are hard to work on, but I don't think there was ever a tougher truck...
  • Posted 20 Aug 2009 05:02
  • Reply by mike_n
  • Alberta, Canada
I agree, tie the solinoid battery positive into the oil pressure switch and if its low on oil, it wont start. Yes Clarks are fun to work on, but we still have a 1961 C-40 that keeps up with the new stuff, amazing.
  • Posted 19 Aug 2009 22:56
  • Reply by chublil
  • California, United States
Fix it right!!!
Those old Continental sidevalves never produced much vacuum, they will run fine even when they get tired and low on compresion. Remove the filterlock and fit an electric solonoid valve filter assy, that will cure the problem, I have done the same myself.
On your question about them old C500's being crap, yes they were a ba**ard to work on but you wont find many Toyotas, Mitsi;s and the like going when they are that old!! We look after a couple of old Clarks for a customer that are 1950's trucks and still going strong.
  • Posted 19 Aug 2009 22:22
  • Reply by danny_k
  • Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom

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