Discussion:
who really decides where parts are ordered from?

I am wondering if my experience in deciding where I get my parts is different than others. it seems to me that the service techs are who decides in most cases, just who we order parts from.
Most of the time the dealership has an "after-market" supplier who is somehow connected to the OEM, but if I requested or just gave a PN attributed to some other source, the parts department has no problem with ordering from that source, (and rarely asks twice).
Where you work, is it the parts department, the dealer principal, the customer, the Shop Foreman, Service Manager, the tech, or just who decides what source your parts are from.
  • Posted 23 Dec 2009 01:44
  • Modified 23 Dec 2009 01:46 by poster
  • Discussion started by edward_t
  • South Carolina, United States
"it's not rocket surgery"
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I was reading your reply " towmotor" regarding the pepsi issue and junk parts like u-joints, throttle cables, even park brake cables that last maybe a week or so. Wheel cyl assembled improper or wrong seals with no bleeders machined. My head is just buzzing thinking of all the issues
  • Posted 29 Jun 2013 12:05
  • Reply by BrewCrew
  • Ontario, Canada
We`re here for a good time
I'm at a dealer, so we use our parts exclusively unless working on brand X.
Many SMH parts for off brands will cross over to Raymond.
I have found some SMH parts are the actual original OEM part, re-packaged with with SMH part #....but a bit cheaper than the same dealer part. It's a hit and miss. Some aftermarket parts are fine with no issues. Many common parts are made exclusively by one manufacturer, and fit most forklifts. Take a deadman switch from any counter-balanced forklift out there. I have Daewoo, Cat, Raymond.....all come with the exact same deadman switch.....that you could buy at Sears for your lawn tractor! Take a close look at one on any seat from any manufacturer....you will find a warning that on the switch that reads " Be careful of spinning blades" So next time you are stuck waiting for a deadman switch, try Sears!
  • Posted 28 Jun 2013 23:10
  • Reply by EasiTek
  • Ontario, Canada
Multiple cylinders leaking, blowing seals. Even replacements with same issues. They have been good with sending replacements but not sure how long they will last. Good feedback
  • Posted 27 Jun 2013 11:41
  • Reply by BrewCrew
  • Ontario, Canada
We`re here for a good time
We have been having some Cam side shifts recently and they seem to be a fairly heavy duty well built s/s and have had no problems so far, have you had problems?
FYI, TVH now owns Cam, ( taking over the world!!)
  • Posted 27 Jun 2013 09:35
  • Reply by forkinlift
  • Bucks, United Kingdom
Any issues with side shifters manufactured by Cam systems ( Italy) if so,. how recent and what kind of problems.
  • Posted 27 Jun 2013 00:12
  • Reply by BrewCrew
  • Ontario, Canada
We`re here for a good time
Had a on going issue with the quality of a certain aftermarket part, we reported this to the parts supplier.

They came & had a look, they agreed it was a manufacturing problem & the part was poor quality so the solution they came up with was they would stop using this manufacturer for this part & supply a genuine part instead for the same price from now on.
  • Posted 19 Jun 2013 22:39
  • Reply by Forkingabout
  • england, United Kingdom
This is a little after the fact but has the quality of aftermarket parts increased or are "we" still the quality control for these companies. They expect us to report to them regarding problems and issues with parts while the cost of these parts continue to increase.
How many times can you afford to do the same job $$$, How many times do we have to report problems, sending things back for warranty $$$.
From what I have seen this is a full time part time job, guess the only cure is to use OE.
Does this problem exists everywhere and if so what are the components that are failing in your field.
I am looking forward for input to this frustrating, ongoing problem.
  • Posted 19 Jun 2013 11:27
  • Reply by BrewCrew
  • Ontario, Canada
We`re here for a good time
luvya ponykilla. SMH seal kits and starters (just to name a few) *** bug time. Seal kits arent even close and the starters get changed as soon as you put them in. OEM all the way if possible. Customer wants cheap, tell them it is gonna be cheap the first time, but (as Arnie said) "I'll be back!!
  • Posted 6 Mar 2010 08:52
  • Reply by mechnottech
  • Florida, United States
I hate to get anyother parts other than OEM , most custumers like the cheapiest even if the job gets done every other month. SMH PARTS ARE USELESS!!!
  • Posted 3 Mar 2010 10:17
  • Reply by ponykilla
  • Florida, United States
most of the time the customer requests specific brands/parts/etc. if not, the cheapest!!!!
  • Posted 3 Mar 2010 01:27
  • Reply by ryan_w
  • Pennsylvania, United States
We have had major issues with aftermarket starters. We've also had problems with mufflers where the pipe that are welded onto them are not the correct diameter and instead of the technician alerting us about it so we can return it, they mess with it for an hour and a half to get it to fit. Most of all we have good luck with aftermarket but we are selective about what and who we buy from.
There are some companies that will cross reference a temperature gauge for instance. Their feeling is that it is a temperature gauge and if it doesn't fit in the hole it doesn't matter, it's a gauge, that's what matters.
  • Posted 28 Jan 2010 23:21
  • Reply by duodeluxe
  • United States
Where I work it usually pretty simple, If the machine is one of the brands that we sell, it will almost always be an OEM part. When it comes to other brands of equipment than we usually go after market, which usually means Total Source, since this is a very big company with a huge volume of parts sales T/S gives us a preferred customer discount (or so I am told, I'm a roadie, not a parts guy).
As a road tech I've learned that there are some parts, and some machinery brands that simply must be OEM no matter what the cost, and when I speak to our parts dept. people I make it very clear that I want OEM only.
We roadie's used to get a lot of resistance about the demand for OEM parts since it was cutting down our purchases from T/S, but after a few catastrophic failures related to poor quality after market parts, our parts dept manager finally realized that the roadie's do, in-fact know what's best.
There are times when after market is better too. For example, the radiators that we have been getting from our OEM sources over the past few years have been complete junk, and don't have a very long warranty. So for a few more bucks and twice the warranty length a radiator from T/S is a better deal for the customer despite the fact that it probably came from the same factory as the OEM source version.
I usually don't discuss the source of the parts with my clients unless there is going to be an extended delay in shipping or an outrageous difference in the price. I explain that the after market parts for this particular job are known to be of inferior quality, and that it will be penny wise but pound foolish to go the cheap route this time. That and the fact that the part may have a warranty, but the labor doesn't will usually make a hesitant client see things my way.
  • Posted 28 Jan 2010 12:33
  • Reply by fixitandy
  • Pennsylvania, United States
This industry has a lot of ups and downs
OEM Electrical parts yes, other aftermarket. Let just say bearings for example OEM or after market label the same,but someone mark up 400% OEM.I get to the point the customer calls in for himself and ask how much? o too much!! but they can't fix the unit and I wait 60days for my money, invested time.Time has made a service Tech impossible, demand is very high and customer cutting cost but the truck is new? Ha !!
Maybe a simple solution for services??
  • Posted 28 Jan 2010 04:59
  • Reply by LOGIC
  • Ontario, Canada
As a road tech for 20 years, I always tried my best to reserve the right to choose what part I used for repairs. Some applications require OEM, or you will be right back out there doing a warranty repair. Other repairs aftermarket works. Anything traction and control related your better off using OEM. Obviously if you work for an independant you could have an overzealous parts manager who buys aftermarket and marks it up to an OEM price. Long story short I was the guy touching the truck and on a number of occasions I had to remind not only the parts guy, but also the service manager of that very fact. "If you feel comfortable using an aftermarket part, don't automatically assume I am as well". This statement saved me numerous call backs and built my credibility with my customers. I also informed my customers of the fact that on this particular repair, I don't feel good about an aftermarket part, and they felt good about not only paying more for the part, but the decision I made to inform them of that very fact. Later.
  • Posted 31 Dec 2009 22:12
  • Reply by chublil
  • California, United States
Fix it right!!!
I like to use OEM when possible.But for a Air filter oil filter ect I really dont mind.But like vaporizers some aftermarket have 1 that works on several.As most know working on late model trucks,It isnt that simple anymore.Id rather know its not the part I just replaced rather than replace a part to find out that change it made wasnt just a bad part replaceing a bad part.
  • Posted 29 Dec 2009 09:09
  • Reply by proshadetree
  • Tennessee, United States

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