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What's up with Toyota?

Does anyone know whats going on with Toyota and the dealers in central Florida?
I'm having a very difficult time getting parts for my fleet. Seems to be some disparities with some companies and quite a few lawsuits going on. Seems Toyota has lost focus on their customers. Anybody have any ideas?
  • Posted 27 May 2004 22:13
  • By Bassfisherman
  • joined 27 May'04 - 4 messages
  • Florida, United States
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Interesting discussion. As a former field service tech/foreman for first a Crown dealer, then a Toyota dealer, I don't think you have a dealer issue.
Crown has the absolute best parts system I have ever dealt with, and I have dealt with them all. You can get everything right from the parts book.
Toyota however, has the worst parts system I have ever dealt with in my 20 years as a technician. There are parts that I took off the lift truck myself, looked through both the parts book and the computer with our partsman and could find nothing on it whatsoever. These are simple items such as switches, brackets, etc. Then, even if you could find a part, it seemed like some little Chinaman put it in his rowboat and commenced to row across the Pacific. Yes, it would take that long.
I only had to wait more than a day for a Crown part once, and that was a main wire harness that burned on a TSP, turret truck.
Toyota's parts literature is in dire need of an overhaul.
I'll bet that if you ordered almost any Crown part from Florida Lift, they could have it next day. Even with the legal troubles.
One thing to think about, you may be having some parts troubles now, but one thing I can tell you from experience is that if you switch brands, those troubles will only transfer to the service end. I never liked any imports until I worked for a Toyota lift truck dealer. Your service costs will skyrocket with any other brand. In my experience, Toyota's don't break, people break them.

Hate to hi-jack a post, but would love to hear from Toyota parts on this one.
  • Posted 11 Jun 2004 06:07
  • Modified 11 Jun 2004 06:11 by poster
  • By andy_h
  • joined 11 Jun'04 - 4 messages
  • Pennsylvania, United States
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Dear Bassfisherman,
I have been hearing some of the problems with getting Toyota parts also.
I work for Rapidparts Inc and we supply all brands of forklift parts. All though I can not sell direct to you I can put you in touch with one of our dealers who would be more than willing to work with you.
Just to give you a little bit of History of who we are. We are owned by Mitsubishi Caterpilar Forklift America out of Houston Texas. We supply all brands of parts to help our dealers service or supply parts to end users such as your self.
Phone: 800-832-1275 and my extension is 3123 or my direct number is 616-647-3123.
Hope to hear from you soon

Regards,
Scot Schilstra
Rapidparts Inc.
2950 Walkent Ct NW
Grand Rapids, Mi 49544
  • Posted 10 Jun 2004 22:29
  • Modified 23 Jun 2004 09:24 by administrator
  • By scot_s
  • joined 10 Jun'04 - 63 messages
  • Michigan, United States
I would like to thank Mr. Roensch, I called and spoke with him. We exchanged pleasantries and he informed me on some good information. Said he would address some of the issue's with his company and an associate from the corporate office would be getting in contact with me in the future. Time will tell. I believe he understands my concerns about deliveries of parts, cost of parts and customers being forced to purchase parts from dealers that they really don't want to do business with. I did correct him in that I had purchased from a for mention company in the past. I'm awaiting a call from corp.
On another note I thought I might pass along a little advice for those of you that purchase not only forklift's and parts but do any kind of purchasing. I find it very usefull to go online and search county public records in which the company you are thinking about using and do some research on them and also their owners. There is alot of information there that will tell you about a company past history. This is all public records so the information is there to use to your benefit. It may help keep your company from unwanted issues down the road. Remember some companies use different names in different counties so it would be a good idea to try and research all counties that they do business in. This is very helpfull information. Some states or counties my not have this information so you may not be able to access it.
  • Posted 8 Jun 2004 23:17
  • By Bassfisherman
  • joined 27 May'04 - 4 messages
  • Florida, United States
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bassfisherman: I'll come right out and identify myself as Ron Roensch, General Counsel for Toyota Material Handling U.S.A., Inc. (TMHU). My phone number is 949-223-7783. I will be happy to discuss with you, or anyone else who is interested, the status of any Toyota Dealer and provide you with the actual facts regarding the Tampa area. I believe you are referencing Gulf Coast as the Toyota Dealer you used to do business with. It is a matter of public record that Gulf Coast voluntarily filed bankruptcy, owing its creditors hundreds of thousands of dollars. TMHU has appointed Florida Lift Systems as a Toyota Dealer in the Tampa area to provide Toyota customers with another option for total parts availability and the quickest delivery time. I suggest you contact Florida Lift Systems and let them provide you with parts pricing that you can negotiate directly with them; you state they are "part of the problem" but I don't believe you have ever done business with them; please correct me if I am wrong.

I look forward to your call.
  • Posted 5 Jun 2004 07:30
  • By RJRoensch
  • joined 5 Jun'04 - 1 message
  • California, United States
Mr. Tom Lawson, I think that you should give Ed Orlowski of Florida Lift Systems an opportunity to resolve your issue. Florida Lift Systems, Inc., in business since 1952, with offices in Tampa, Orlando, and Winter Haven has recently won Toyota's highest honors based on performance and support of their customer's needs. Our goal is to provide our customers with a competitive advantage in their business through the products and services we provide. I do believe that Florida Lift Systems or Southern States Toyotlift can and will resolve issues that you may now have because of changes that the manufacturer felt that they needed to make changes in the territory. Please alow Ed or myself (Charles D. Painter 904-764-7662 ext. 139)to have a face to face meeting with you. I would appreciate the opportunity. And this is not lip service. I have been with Southern States Toyotalift (f\k\a Handling Systems Engineering, Inc.) for almost 8 years and truely believe that we can only help. Thank you.
  • Posted 5 Jun 2004 06:07
  • By charles_p
  • joined 3 Jun'04 - 13 messages
  • United States
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Thanks everyone for your response! For those of you that are out of my area, is it correct that Toyota will make you sell your parts to me at list price? Thats what I've been told. I received a nice discount on parts from a past dealership that I use to use until Toyota started playing games with them and now it takes them a while to receive parts from the factory. If you can offer a disount on Toyota parts then we can talk.
Ed O, Thanks but nothing personal, but Florida Lift is part of the problem here in Florida!! And now I hear it's starting in north Florida to! Toyota sure doesn't have any loyality to it's dealer's who made them what they are. I see Clarklift written all over this one. Not trying to get into a ****'en contest here, just not happy with Toyota after being a loyal customer for over 25 years. Sure puts a bind on a customer on the way they are handling things here and the way they are forgeting about their customers. Lip service doesn't cut it, market shares will drop, wait and see. Just wish I could find a loyal vendor.
Uh! Yale, what can you offer?
  • Posted 5 Jun 2004 04:29
  • By Bassfisherman
  • joined 27 May'04 - 4 messages
  • Florida, United States
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I am the Corporate Parts Manager for Florida Lift Systems and new Toyota dealer for Central Florida as of December,2003.I would like to hear from you and resolve your problem as soon as possible.You can reach me at 813-621-1000 ext1227.
  • Posted 5 Jun 2004 01:21
  • By ed_o
  • joined 5 Jun'04 - 1 message
  • Florida, United States
Toyota parts in asia are not a problem mainly because we have several suppliers which are different form the US market...Also I agree that the profliferation of 2nd brand parts (non-toyota) also called replacement parts, has kept Toyota on their collective toes. if they don't supply, someone else will!
  • Posted 4 Jun 2004 17:40
  • By ajrakoni
  • joined 4 Jun'04 - 1 message
  • Metro Manila, Philippines
When all has been said and done, a hell of a lot more was said than done.
From: The Toyota Territory Parts and Service Manager. If you are having any difficulity ordering or receiving Toyota Parts from the local dealers please contact me at 812-341-8675 leave your number and I will return your call.
  • Posted 4 Jun 2004 06:49
  • By charles_p
  • joined 3 Jun'04 - 13 messages
  • United States
How invincible is justice if it be well spoken.
i am a Toyota dealer in TX. Toyota had some issues back at the beginning of this year but most issues have been resolved. i can supply with whatever parts you need for those 6 and 7 series trucks you have. please feel free to contact me at 1-800-873-1828 and ask for Ryan Hudson
  • Posted 4 Jun 2004 06:27
  • By ryan_h
  • joined 4 Jun'04 - 1 message
  • Texas, United States
Plese call me for your parts needs, I am the largest aftermarket supplier in Central Florida, located in Orlando. We also have contacts to get any OEM parts if needed. Kevin 407-532-0805
  • Posted 4 Jun 2004 01:20
  • By Allparts
  • joined 4 Jun'04 - 2 messages
  • Florida, United States
We will be glad to look at upgrading or changing your fleet to Mitsubishi. We are a statewide dealer for Mitsubishi.
We also represent Cat,Linde,Bendi and Teledyne.
Call Paul at 305-696-3500 ext 314
  • Posted 3 Jun 2004 22:04
  • By paul_m
  • joined 3 Jun'04 - 3 messages
  • Florida, United States
If you are still having trouble getting Toyota OEM parts in your area. Please let me know. I can help you resolve this issue. I am the Corporate Parts Manager for the Toyota dealer in North Florida and Southern Georgia.
  • Posted 3 Jun 2004 04:58
  • By charles_p
  • joined 3 Jun'04 - 13 messages
  • United States
How invincible is justice if it be well spoken.
Thanks for your response.
Yes I am always looking for a trusted vendor that I can purchase from. At present we have 30 + Toyota fleet. Mostly all series 6 and 7 #3000 and #5000 pound electric and LP sit down trucks. Toyota has been a real pain in the butt with all the games they have been playing with the local Dealers. I have spoke with the regional Rep but he is a yes sir man that just sits there and smiles when you ask questions. I've been a loyale Toyota customer for 25 years but now I believe it is time to move on.
I'll contact you in the near future to chat, thank you both.
  • Posted 28 May 2004 08:36
  • By Bassfisherman
  • joined 27 May'04 - 4 messages
  • Florida, United States
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I am a Product Support Representative in Northern California. I checked in with our parts manager. He says we recieve 95% of the OEM parts we order from Toyota. The other 5% is either very new or old stuff from Japan.
If you would like let me know what type of parts you are not recieving. Maybe I can help.
  • Posted 28 May 2004 05:43
  • By Garfield
  • joined 28 May'04 - 1 message
  • California, United States
Go for it, you will be surprised!
I have been hearing about the those issues and it just doesnt sound good for the customer. You would think that it would be more important then dealership legal rights. Are you looking for parts support or service? If parts are what you are looking for then there are many options open for you. let me know if you are interested. the aftermarket is pretty strong for Toyota parts.
  • Posted 28 May 2004 00:20
  • By Dobie
  • joined 20 May'04 - 3 messages
  • Kansas, United States

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