Combilift CL70066LA00:
Unit Wont start.

New member. Drove unit and parked. Went back 5 mins later and wont start. Unit is in neutral. Pulled direction selector out and checked the contacts on it. No power to solenoid on starter. Key has power and sends power when in starting position. The wiring diagrams I have for this machine show a relay (marked #1) in the arm rest for the starter. I don't have a relay #1 in there. I can manually jump the starter and unit run and drives fine. I would post a picture of the relays but not sure how to. Thanks for the help.
  • Posted 21 Jan 2021 07:27
  • Discussion started by Roling
  • Iowa, United States
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hi Roling,
awesome
glad you found the relay for it
the info i had was for a different model but i hoped it gave you enough to go on to look around. Not all their models are arranged the same in every case. The start relay and fuse being separate located in the engine compartment is new to me, machines i worked on were from the older series. It's been a while since i worked on a combi (years). I just dug up some info i had on them from my last training class i had long ago.
I'm glad you figured it out though.
  • Posted 30 Jan 2021 09:01
  • Reply by swoop223
  • North Carolina, United States
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Thank you for the information. I ended up finding a box in the engine compartment under some harness' with the fuse and the start relay. The fuse was blown. Thanks for the help.
  • Posted 30 Jan 2021 08:40
  • Reply by Roling
  • Iowa, United States
contacting combilift is an option and they are most helpful.
but first is there another model number shown on the lift anywhere?
secondly, as long as you have verified that the direction switch is in neutral and the parking brake is set, then you should start troubleshooting the start circuit.
In general you have done most of the checks to verify the circuit except for the part of it that actually goes from the keyswitch to the control relay then to the starter solenoid.
Yes there is a relay 1 that controls the starter circuit, there is also a fuse but if the machine powers up and the dash lights up then most likely the fuse is ok as it has multiple circuits it controls including the start circuit. The relay 1 would be where i would check if all else is energized when the key is in the 'on' position.
Now based on the C4000N series there are a number of relays underneath the dash panel and the starter relay is indicated as index 1 located on the lower row of relays but would be the one on bottom left closest to the operator of the bottom row of relays. You really would need the layout diagram to know exactly which one it is but it may be numbered.
If you contact combilift they can tell you exactly what to do. The model number you gave does not tell me what the actual model number is, even in all my combi training information they do not have a decode chart that translates that number to the model number you see on the outside of the machine like CB5000 or C4000N or C5000GT etc etc. Only combi can translate that to my knowledge. This was one of the questions i had during my training that never got answered and apparently they did not feel the need to do this for some reason.
Anyway good luck
i think you'll find whatever the problem is it will be something your doing out of sequence as i eluded to in the beginning of my post. ie: parking brake not being set.
  • Posted 25 Jan 2021 00:25
  • Reply by swoop223
  • North Carolina, United States
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Hi,

You can contact our North America Service team on email.
"service.usa @ combilift.com" (If you remove the spaces from this you have the email address) and they will help you.

Hope this helps.
  • Posted 22 Jan 2021 20:31
  • Modified 22 Jan 2021 20:32 by poster
  • Reply by Richard_Irwin
  • Monaghan, Ireland

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