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Clark CGP 25

Anybody cast light on test points and pressures for hydraulics on Clark?
Just been looking at problem with brakes and truck stalling.
Brake shoes like new but wont stop truck unless you pull steer wheel to chin!!
when i look into this i see that the brakes are linked into hydraulics with idle up valve (also not working)
I am now thinking that pressure for brakes may be down??
any help appreciated
Its a 2001 year with serial number starting P365L 4095 GEF
  • Posted 7 Jul 2009 04:37
  • Discussion started by ian_h
  • United Kingdom
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yes quite expensive, we usually get them metal sprayed and machined, but you are right the easy way is not to adjust the brakes up so much..
  • Posted 14 Aug 2009 23:44
  • Reply by DaveUK
  • BERKSHIRE, United Kingdom
Who bravely dares must sometimes risk a fall.
I appreciate your response. This sounds like a expensive fix. Is there an easy fix? will just loosening the brakes solve this for the short term?

Thanks
  • Posted 14 Aug 2009 23:21
  • Reply by anthony_w
  • New York, United States
On the CGP, the front axle housings wear, at the point they are supported by the chassis mounting bracket. When you jack up the truck to adjust brakes the brake back plate moves to central because it is attached to the chassis. Then you let the jack down and you have the impression that the brakes are over adjusted and binding slightly.....steering and turning can somtimes cause the brakes to bind on a slightly worn axle....hope this makes sense, anybody else found this? I know that went off the thread a little :)
  • Posted 14 Aug 2009 22:43
  • Reply by DaveUK
  • BERKSHIRE, United Kingdom
Who bravely dares must sometimes risk a fall.
Anthony,
My reply:
HE PROBABLY HAS THE HOSES THAT FEED THE BRAKE VALVE OFF THE STEER VALVE IN THE WRONG PLACE. THE BRAKE VALVE IS FEED SUPPLY FLUID FROM THE RETURN OFF THE P/S VALVE. IT IS NOT PRESSURIZED FLUID , ONLY RETURN OIL
  • Posted 12 Aug 2009 01:09
  • Reply by Forkliftt
  • Louisiana, United States
Anthony,
I forwarded your question to my Clark "go to guy". Should have an answer today.
Steve
  • Posted 11 Aug 2009 22:49
  • Reply by Forkliftt
  • Louisiana, United States
I also have a CGP25 with brake problems. It seems that everytime you turn the steering wheel the brakes get applied. It really slows down production. Is this because the brakes may be adjusted too tight or could there be a problem with the hydraulics? Your help would be appreciated.
  • Posted 11 Aug 2009 04:21
  • Reply by anthony_w
  • New York, United States
Excellent!
  • Posted 15 Jul 2009 05:59
  • Reply by Forkliftt
  • Louisiana, United States
cheers for that forklift, cleaned & adjusted brakes on thursday, driver not called since to say they poor.
after adjustment brakes did feel much better and didnt have to push pedal as hard.
  • Posted 14 Jul 2009 03:32
  • Reply by ian_h
  • United Kingdom
Ian,
That system actually keeps residual pressure to the wheel cylinders at all times. When you shut the machine off you should be able to crack a bleeder and get pressure out.
I suggest you check the shoe adjustment. Lift the drive wheels, remove the wheel and put two of the lug nuts back on to keep the drum in place. Remove the 1/4" bolt and remove the access cover on the brake drum. At 4 and 8 o'clock set your brake shoe clearance at about.0020" as I recall. This is a **** system with the 2 star wheels. I like to go about 5 clicks left, then 5 clicks right until the shoe clearance is in spec..
  • Posted 13 Jul 2009 05:05
  • Reply by Forkliftt
  • Louisiana, United States
thanks for that mrfixit, but this problem has just started in last couple of days, brakes were good, then all of a sudden just went poor.
  • Posted 8 Jul 2009 04:42
  • Reply by ian_h
  • United Kingdom
I can shed a little light on that system. Instead of a master cylinder and brake fluid it uses a valve and hydraulic oil. The valve has a hose supplying it with low pressure oil (500psi ?). There is a bypass return line from the valve and the steel brake line going to the wheel cylinders. When you push the petal it should be closing down the bypass return and building pressure to the brakes. The problem I had with one of those was that in cold temperatures and thicker oil the by pass could not keep the pressure way down so there was slight pressure in the brake lines even with your foot off the brake. That would cause the brake shoes to drag. The only cure was to install stronger brake shoe return springs. Maybe changing to a lighter oil would have helped.
  • Posted 7 Jul 2009 20:38
  • Reply by mrfixit
  • New York, United States

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