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i wonder what happened to the future of forklift discussion

I wonder why the future of forklift discussion has diapered,
may be it was because manufactures don't like to here what is true and Lithium iron batteries do catch fire
  • Posted 27 Sep 2018 22:27
  • Discussion started by exalt
  • Dubai, United Arab Emirates
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IM slowly de bugging my transporter beam. The problem I am having is when I transport human beings they rematerialize with their heads up their bu---. Not only is it a dark place they cannot see where they are going, Any suggestions?
  • Posted 28 Jan 2019 22:03
  • Reply by triumphrider
  • Texas, United States
I'm sure your talking about thriumphrider's transporter beam.
  • Posted 27 Jan 2019 11:03
  • Reply by Yidneck
  • New York, United States
Dreamt I was fixing a machine, then came the paperwork and it turned into a nightmare.
well guys, based on his past suggestions of how and where this new tech is going to be revealed i doubt it's going to be this spectular fanfare event that we all are anticipating. UNLESS he's changed his mind and is going to show it at a tradeshow in the EU? US?
Shrugs
Until some viable rendition of this 'miracle bread' technology is actually shown in realtime, reallife, authentic video or official documentation i'm not going to hold my breath ;o)

am patiently and somberly waiting
  • Posted 27 Jan 2019 00:28
  • Reply by swoop223
  • North Carolina, United States
You've been swooped!
swoop223@gmail.com
Get your popcorn or pizza and some beer or ale or tea or cola ( same letters spell coal - hmmm!! - is this a bad omen????)ready for show time!
Wonder what it it will be unveiled in the US on EDT?

Hope it is at the same time of day that the Aussies ring in the New Year see it is ~ 8 am in Georgia (USA) then & have a Virgin Screwdriver. Can't stay up 'til 12 am to see the Apple or Peach drop in the same ole' place - as they say SOS different day plus teh Golden Year don't help either. I really enjoy the fire works display on the Harbour Bridge, Sydney - actually very nice to watch. The Aussies I've met do like to have fun!!
BTW at 12 noon my time, that screw driver is not longer a virgin -I ain't dead yet and my doctor says it is OK to buy green bananas for the next 6 mos.
  • Posted 26 Jan 2019 02:38
  • Modified 26 Jan 2019 02:40 by poster
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
Less than 90 days till we are all blown away! April is coming quick.
  • Posted 25 Jan 2019 00:13
  • Reply by ChrisK
  • Kansas, United States
@Yidneck and other.
One thing I leaned early on in engineering classes is a simple fact and that is engineering its best is a compromise that weighs the pluses against the minuses against the true added value.
During my 41 year career in the lift truck industry I read tons of product literature and I quickly discovered that every body had heavy duty, this and that and long life characteristics but not one company stated they had a "light duty or short life piece of equipment.
A few years ago GM announce that the electric Volt car was going to be the car of the future and save the world - our fed government even help pay for each one that was sold. Recently GM announce the Volt will no longer be produced in it's current configuration - it will be a Hybrid. Telsa seems to be have some issues right now too.
Recall several years ago(like 20+) CNG fuel lift rucks was the way to go and everybody offered that option. last time I looked only Toyota offered that option. There were some significant issues not mentioned during the "hype" days - things like cost of refueling stations ( slow system cheaper, fast refuel systems big bucks plus they required some annual maintenance due to teh high pressures), refuel time and the fuel tanks had to be replaced within 7 or 10 years, fuel tank help less fuel and the tanks were thick walled and could only be refuel on the truck (no tank exchange possible) and trade in values of of CNG units dropped significantly as the second had market had little appetite for used units- units had to converted back to LP to be resold... Like I said before "engineering at its best is a compromise" - it was back in the 1960s and remain so today.
  • Posted 19 Jan 2019 23:29
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
Yes, kind of nice but I like the banter from the regular contributors that are knowledgeable such as yourself. I'm too old and been out of it for too long and am full of arthritis and residual effects from chemo and radiation. Generators were still de rigeur when I started out as a foreign car mechanic in N.H. Too our friends in England, I learned on Triumph, M.G., Rover, Jaguar, Lotus Europa John Player Special and even a Lotus Cortina. Thanks for the memories.
  • Posted 19 Jan 2019 10:06
  • Reply by bobcat
  • New Hampshire, United States
yo bobcat, that silence was kinda nice tho ;o)
  • Posted 19 Jan 2019 08:53
  • Reply by swoop223
  • North Carolina, United States
You've been swooped!
swoop223@gmail.com
A 7 ton electric forklift with a 90KW lithium iron battery, it would need 2 hours charging per day just to complete a 6 hour shift, if you were to take this against a tesla model S 100D this would have a range of an average of 500km the average weekly travel would be 320KM so the would need charging every 11 days about, 33 times a year. The 7 ton forklift working just six hours a day based on a 5 day week would need charging around 240 times a year, or 7 years' worth of charging compared to the Tesla. This will probably cause major Battery problems after around 3 years.

Now Hyster are to show there 45 ton electric truck soon. Now this truck would need a 480KW Lithium iron battery just to work a six hour shift the charging time depending on how many chargers you use say you had 5 chargers would take 2 hours, but the amount of heat this would generate could quite easily cause a fire. Now Hyster have also said they are looking at hydrogen fuel cell. A truck this size would need a 110Kw Hydrogen fuel cell plus a 110kw battery system and would use around 10kg of hydrogen per hour. A kg of hydrogen is around $5.75 so just to rum the truck would cost $57.5 per hour. Then you will have the vibration of the truck this vibration would damage the fuel cell plates after six month so every six month the complete cell would need a rebuild. The cost of the truck would be between $ 750,000 and $1,000,000

So I was wondering who would want to pay the higher cost of an electric medium or big truck with less productivity and mush higher running costs.

The only new truck I have seen from Hangcha lately is the new big electric truck the A series. This again would look to run on a lead acid battery system. Meaning running time would be limited to around just four hours
  • Posted 19 Jan 2019 07:37
  • Modified 19 Jan 2019 07:39 by poster
  • Reply by exalt
  • Dubai, United Arab Emirates
The silence is deafening.
  • Posted 18 Jan 2019 15:20
  • Reply by bobcat
  • New Hampshire, United States
Hangcha has released XC series new energy forklift and C series lithium battery at Cemat exhibition 2018, not sure what there new energy is yet. Maybe the chinese have already beaten exalt to it.
  • Posted 19 Nov 2018 22:32
  • Reply by heightlift
  • North, United Kingdom
Been away awhile. And oh, missed so much. Will take a day or two to catch up....

One question though, how can you believe a "hard, evidence based science" when they change their mind and predictions every year?
About 30 years ago all the hype was that we're headed back to the ice age. Then it was named global warming. Then they perfected the scam and named it "climate change". This way regardless what happens they can take credit for the prediction. Oh.. And laugh till the bank.
  • Posted 12 Nov 2018 11:20
  • Reply by Yidneck
  • New York, United States
Dreamt I was fixing a machine, then came the paperwork and it turned into a nightmare.
There's an old saying along the lines of a prophet being ignored in his own country so all the naysayers are going to have very red faces if Exalt really does unveil his promised machine.
Oh, and if he does, I'll be putting my hand up to discuss distribution in my part of the world.....
  • Posted 8 Nov 2018 11:27
  • Reply by oldforker
  • auckland, New Zealand
I Know the Chinese will copy the shape as they have already done this with Carer and i think they did with Kalmar when the launched their 10 - 16 ton range. They will be lucky to copy the inside as this is well protected with patents, and we will look at taking their distributors to court over patent infringement. There is a way you can persue the dealer or distributor so it will be them we look to go after as you won't get any-ware trying to pursue the Chinese OEM
  • Posted 8 Nov 2018 08:00
  • Reply by exalt
  • Dubai, United Arab Emirates
I bet that the Chinese with their Nikon, look a like, cameras have their bags packed and ready to ascend on Dubai by the basket fulls to steal this new found intellectual property.
They will be closely monitor for the exact day, time & place of this unveiling and will be shipping their "look a like" before exalt & company gets their 3 production facilities up and running.

This was the tactic of the Japanese at all the major material handling shows during the 1970/ early 80s in the US and suspect in Europe too. The only difference is they had real & expensive Nikon cameras - made in Japan - but you could buy the same camera cheaper in the US than in Japan - another tactic of the Japanese that got them in trouble in mid 80s in the lift truck industry.
  • Posted 8 Nov 2018 03:48
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States

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