Perhaps someone can explain the difference (as far as the completed product goes) between 2 electric motors, whose only difference is who owns the plant that built the motor?
A failed motor can come out of a manufacturing facility, no matter who owns that facility.
If we were trying to differentiate because of some design spec, this would be far more understandable, but to say that because less people can see the failures makes it better some how, , does not make for less failures, just less people seeing them.

Re: Everyone keep in mind, Crown is the only Manufacturer that builds their own electric motors vs outsourcing them.

I think Linde and Jungheinrich have a joint facility manufacturing their own motors called Juli.

You obviously lead a sheltered life lifttruckjedi. Milehighlynne has it correct.

Now I wonder whos best with all the ac systems out there

Without a doubt, NMHG (Hyster / Yale) make the best sit-down electric forklift. They have dominated the North America market and have the best productivity and energy efficiency in the market.

Crown equipment ( walkie stackers , RC302030's RR4-5000 etc ) , seems to go thru our shop with relativley small / minor problems on pre delivery inspections. They hold value , have a quality name , sell quick , and parts are generally easy to obtain / avail.

Response to edward t: "I'll second that motion", Ed!!

+1,
I would even be willing to argue that is what really make a difference between brand a and brand b. it is the training, understanding, care and concern the dealers and techs have for the product.
I think that makes at least as much a difference as the design of the product, and much more than the corporate purchases of brands or components. The Sales pitch counts for MUCH less, in the long run.
Maybe we should start a new thread about how to get a tech to care, and another thread about which/who has the best or most understandable Tech training...

Response to edward t: The statement you made "Cared for by the same group of guys" has to be factored in, with the emphasis on "cared for"..... Proper maintenance and repairs are the key to the life expectantcy of any brand.

these guys took the inching valves and controls and pedals off the IC trucks, as soon as they got the trucks, so they have never had the brake fluid leak into the transmission, and they moved the controls on the stand-up straddle and reach trucks, to be mounted under the overhead guard to keep the battery acid from dripping down on them. they say about 1/2 have never had a trans or diff problem at all.

Ill give ya that one ed old clarks ar build out of nails you cant get them to die

when I see fleets* of 30 year old Toyotas running 24/7 still, then we can be sure they make the best units.
Yesterday, I visited a company who's products we all see and use all the time, who runs 2 shifts normally and 3 shifts about 1/2 a year, who has as the major part of a 200 unit (most are small tugs and pack-mule types, but 65 to 70 units, 90% of the forklifts) are C500-50 and NST Clarks. These units (late 70s, early 80s) have all been cared for since new by the same group of guys and they see no reason yet to trade into new units, unless the units are free. When you can point me to a fleet of toyotas that age, doing that much work still, then we talk about "best units"....
most sales, and most potential sales, does not necessarily exactly equal "best". your mileage may vary.
But I do expect to see 30 year old fleets of Toyotas and/or Raymonds, in another 20 years...

(Ratos? toy-ray? or does the proud (and Anglo) Raymond name go away in 10 more years?)

Check the Fortune 500 website....Raymond/Toyota is #1

I would like to add that Linde and jungheinrich have their own joint venture motor manufacturing facility in Czech republic and have done for approx 15 years.

And to add to Budmans reply, Crown no longer uses EV100 in any truck. It is all access 123. except some smaller walkies, the 30TSP, and the 40TS. And the latter 2 are only until the design change.