the End of Materials Handling as it is known today

The Materials Handling market is about to change. With only around six or seven of the world's manufactures serving. With in the next 10 years most warehouse will be completely different Companies like KION of China DAMATIC or TOYOTA of Japan VANDERLANDE will dominate the warehouse business with hole turnkey products. Pallet trucks, reach trucks VNA truck will all be replaced with automated equipment.

Counter balance forklift sales will also decline and be replaced with complete handling systems that will be able to move products around a facility with out the need of an operator. Out side the facility there will also be big changes Both Diesel and electric forklifts will be replaced with 100% zero emission products that will have much longer ranges then electric forklifts and will be able to handle loads up to 72,000kg while being 100% zero emission. Companies Like Hyster who have backed Hydrogen to the tune of up to $260 million investment will see this disappear as hydrogen forklifts wont be able to compete with the new technologies that will offer lower cost's ,no need for high pressure systems ,be less explosive and more cost effective than hydrogen.
  • Posted 22 Feb 2020 07:11
  • Discussion started by Exalteze
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
Exalt leading the way to a zero emission future
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How is the old super truck going, must be loads out there in the field by now??
  • Posted 14 Sep 2023 01:49
  • Reply by mrLifter
  • Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom
SOS but a different day-
  • Posted 17 Mar 2023 21:49
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
"Have An Exceptional Day!"
We believe that hydrogen powed lift trucks are out there dave we don't believe you have a product
  • Posted 17 Mar 2023 10:33
  • Reply by lifter01
  • West Yorkshire, United Kingdom
Just a question, as there seems to be so many experts.

Do people believe that Hydrogen IC engine technologies would be more widely adopted by the counter balance truck OEMs over 6,000kg as against batteries or fuel cell technologies
  • Posted 15 Mar 2023 21:09
  • Modified 15 Mar 2023 21:10 by poster
  • Reply by Letaq60n
  • W. Yorkshire, United Kingdom
yep... right on que
rattling off the same ole rettorich
still hasn't produced the truck has he?
the circle of empty claims pointless ramblings continues on....
The Matrix has you! ;oD
  • Posted 15 Mar 2023 21:09
  • Reply by swoop223
  • North Carolina, United States
You've been swooped!
There you go you ratteled his cage
  • Posted 15 Mar 2023 20:57
  • Reply by Dexter1212
  • Texas, United States
Its good to see that they have now got the equipment on site, just goes to show even large organisations can take longer than they would like to get equipment ready for tests.

From a point of view on hydrogen fuel cells would be interesting to see how they cope with cracking platinum plates in the cells , dust in the air would be also interesting to see the fuel economy. Hyster say their toplift fuel cell forklift in Los Angeles has a range of around 10 hours, they don't say what the hydrogen tank capacity on the trucks are but you would believe them to be between 30kg and 35 kg

Would be interesting to see if some one like Kalmar or Kone cranes don't go down the Hydrogen IC engine route
  • Posted 11 Mar 2023 01:22
  • Modified 11 Mar 2023 03:58 by poster
  • Reply by Letaq60n
  • W. Yorkshire, United Kingdom
You have only served to awaken somebody by poking his cage
  • Posted 10 Mar 2023 22:01
  • Reply by Dexter1212
  • Texas, United States
Also in this weeks edition is the listing for the Hydrogen and Fuel Cell seminar.
I wonder if our "esteemed friend" will be in attendance too?
  • Posted 10 Mar 2023 00:47
  • Reply by Tat2dPete
  • Strathclyde, United Kingdom
In todays issue hyster reachstacker and a terminal tractor running on hydrogen will start a 2 year test program in the port of valencia. Lest see how it goes, at least the items are built, operational, photographed and ready for work......
  • Posted 9 Mar 2023 19:11
  • Reply by tugger
  • Berkshire, United Kingdom
By now we all know he has no real answers to give.

This thread alone is pushing 3 years (Feb 2020) Let's not forget the prior one that was "deleted by the admins". The thread asking about it started Sep 2018. To date that has been 4 years, 2 months, 13 days. Plus the time the magically deleted thread went on.

The Saturn 5 rocket that was the backbone of the Apollo Program took 6 years to go from paper to flight. Yet this super duper forklift can't get to market.

Nothing is ever going to come out of this. After all, he's still under the belief we work for, or have ties to Hyster/Yale.
  • Posted 15 Nov 2022 00:12
  • Reply by ChrisK
  • Kansas, United States
The story of this modular, ammonia eating, zero emission world beater has only materializes in a Lego like model in a video. Recall a post where Dave or what ever his screen name was at the time proclaimed 15 such units were being prepared for some user(s) on the east coast of North America with mobile ammonia fueling would be available to keep them up and running. Seems that story died "the death of a ragged doll". A couple of years later not one has hit the east coast. But today it seems they might be available some time down the road. There seems to be be a lack of credibility in Dave's written words and lack of integrity going on.. Kinda' like being served a large bowl of "Soup Sandwiches" to folks on FAC.
BTW here is the definition of the word customer.per Webster's Dictionary- "A customer is a person who "buys" goods or services from a business."
  • Posted 13 Nov 2022 09:00
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
"Have An Exceptional Day!"
Dave Dave Dave your getting to be like a record that has stuck my friend. One thing that gets to me as a fellow Yorkshire man is that we are know around the world for being hard working, stubourn (very) proud of where we come from and trustworthy. You only hit one of those and it inst the last one pal.
You say you won't show the truck because a few people on here demand it but and its a big but you have posted on here numerous times when it will be revealed so please dave be a true Yorkshire man.
I've looked on companies house and every company you've had a directorship in starting with Shaw on Pellon Lane has been dissolved?? Why is that Dave??
A final thought you talk of customers?? You don't have a product to sell so where are these mythical customers coming from??
  • Posted 13 Nov 2022 08:14
  • Reply by lifter01
  • West Yorkshire, United Kingdom
there it is again...
more rambling on avoiding the one thing he has promised to do years ago...
but yet deflects to 'we will do it in OUR own time'. then goes off rambling about other things to gaslight once again acting like the 'mircale "zero emmission" machine' isn't the real question we are trying to get to the bottom of.
Sure we know other technologies are being developed in this realm global production and ALL manufacturers are trying to get a hold in the markets and they ALL are finding out that maybe certain ones aren't as viable as others. So far NONE of them measure up to what we have had in the recent past.
We are trying to take steps forward but in reality we are digressing backwards in some respects in 'the name of innovation and technology'.
But enough of that, the question has always been where is this machine you have touted for years? EVERY TIME we try and push that issue at you, you always deflect off onto some other tangent to avoid the obvious...
I think the reason you bash the big mfg's is they can actually produce, advertise and deliver on their products in a reasonable time frame which is considerably way less time than your claims.
Until you produce a unit, a real one and stop touting the claims nobody is going to believe you anymore.
Anyone can do research in the industry and gain a bit of knowledge to impress someone but unless you can actually deliver on your claims?
it's all hogwash....
Yes i work for one of the big mfg's but that is irrelevent, at least when they introduce something new into the market, they advertise it and then actually put it out there for the consumer to see and use.
so far after years and years what have you got?
  • Posted 13 Nov 2022 06:15
  • Reply by swoop223
  • North Carolina, United States
You've been swooped!
We did look at hydrogen yes and we came to the same conclusion as JCB.

Hydrogen would never be a viable fuel because of a number of issues.

We call this progress

This is how innovative works
  • Posted 13 Nov 2022 05:08
  • Reply by Letaq60n
  • W. Yorkshire, United Kingdom

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