Discussion:
the End of Materials Handling as it is known today

The Materials Handling market is about to change. With only around six or seven of the world's manufactures serving. With in the next 10 years most warehouse will be completely different Companies like KION of China DAMATIC or TOYOTA of Japan VANDERLANDE will dominate the warehouse business with hole turnkey products. Pallet trucks, reach trucks VNA truck will all be replaced with automated equipment.

Counter balance forklift sales will also decline and be replaced with complete handling systems that will be able to move products around a facility with out the need of an operator. Out side the facility there will also be big changes Both Diesel and electric forklifts will be replaced with 100% zero emission products that will have much longer ranges then electric forklifts and will be able to handle loads up to 72,000kg while being 100% zero emission. Companies Like Hyster who have backed Hydrogen to the tune of up to $260 million investment will see this disappear as hydrogen forklifts wont be able to compete with the new technologies that will offer lower cost's ,no need for high pressure systems ,be less explosive and more cost effective than hydrogen.
  • Posted 22 Feb 2020 07:11
  • Discussion started by Exalteze
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
Exalt leading the way to a zero emission future
Showing items 166 - 180 of 530 results.
Spot On! Bucko (a.k.a. Bloke from over the pond).
  • Posted 4 Oct 2021 05:13
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
"Have An Exceptional Day!"
That's the problem with being a bulls**tter, you have got to have a good memory!
  • Posted 3 Oct 2021 23:31
  • Reply by mrLifter
  • Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom
lifter01 - just to sum up where this program is at I'll say "SOS different day"

Recall one of Dave's rants in the not so distant past where it what proclaimed Dave & company was ready to beach several of these units along with mobile "ammonia fueling units" on the Eastern shores of North America - US & Canada.

This never ending saga reminds me of a 1967 song titled "Daydream Believer" by a popular American pop/rock band "The Monkees". BTW in '67 they sold more albums that the Beatles. Was a senior in college that year.

BTW now Dave claims he had or has no investors along his journey. He needs to review his posts from the his days in the UAE where he clearly mentions his investors. Could be a case of "Convenient Memory Loss".
  • Posted 3 Oct 2021 21:54
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
"Have An Exceptional Day!"
ifter01, its very easy to say but quite hard to do, what we set out to do is build a completely new company from a clean sheet of paper, i understand how hard it is to build a service company from scratch. But to build a manufacture with a new product has not been easy we have learnt so much over the time we have started from looking at the product design to how the future will look. In ths journey that started as a company that would make diesel powered equipment we learnt that diesel would be gone within ten years, so we needed to come up with a solution unlike the competitors lithium ion. That in our opinion wont meet customers needs or hydrogen that again in our opion will be just to exspensive to be competitive. We came across ammonia that we have developed in to the IC ammonia hybrid system.


This has been a long hard journey and been funded by ourselfs with no outside investors. While there are a number of interested investors now at the begining we have done all this on our own.

Now you can say i having a rant but i just wanted to explain how hard it has been.

Now we have all the components we need tested to put what we want together we can now start the important job of building the equipment


The name change was done as we wanted to have NH3 in our name and as we like i have said we done this all on our own the only money spent is ours no one ealse ,so comements like nigerian scammer are just your opion. But try to do something and build something that you can actually say well This company XYZ ltd is mine i biult this from scratch and i have made it what it is
  • Posted 3 Oct 2021 19:53
  • Modified 3 Oct 2021 19:58 by poster
  • Reply by Letaq60n
  • W. Yorkshire, United Kingdom
Johnr_j the name change is because he dissolves the companies he's involved with every 12 to 18 months the info is there on the companies house website in the us he's been doing this for years ever since he started with Shaw material handling. I'm wondering if the guys really a Nigerian scammer
  • Posted 3 Oct 2021 19:50
  • Reply by lifter01
  • West Yorkshire, United Kingdom
Dave Dave Dave once again instead of going on a rant answer a straight question. Where is this truck you have promised to show to the world ever year pal. Believe it or not we on here would support you if you actually did what you said but you seem incapable of that.
As for what I have achieved it's quite a lot pal but I'm not here posting crap about a product that doesn't seem to exist so that's not up for discussion pal.
So Dave want us to stop criticising you show your product pal you've promised every year for hod knows how long (and not a badly made video on YouTube either)
As for the name change I've checked on companies house pal the name change is because you've dissolved the companies you've been involved with (hence the names on here) and looking at companies linked to yours and Gillian's directorship that seems to happen ever 12 to 24 months pal please remember all of this is available for anybody to see.
I'm up home in Yorkshire in a couple of weeks Dave want me to call round to your house in Southowram for a cuppa and a chat??
  • Posted 3 Oct 2021 19:39
  • Modified 3 Oct 2021 19:50 by poster
  • Reply by lifter01
  • West Yorkshire, United Kingdom
Hard for a product to promote itself when no one has seen one in actual use (except in a Lego model) and the intro dates keeps bouncing around like a BB* in a box car. *as in an a Daisy air rifle
As far as your company goes, no one knows of your company 'cause you and/or your investors haven't promoted it or published info on it - like Elon Musk has with his Telsa over the years.
  • Posted 2 Oct 2021 22:14
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
"Have An Exceptional Day!"
Like , i have pointed out, known of you know our business or anything about our company, or by the looks of it anything of real interest.

As for me trying to promote our product well what can i say the post is called THE END OF MATERIALS HANDLING AS IT IS KNOWN TODAY.

But yet known of you have either put a post that might conribute to how the future of materials handling will look. You all seem fixated about what we are doing and how to knock what we are doing


like comments of looking for another mug thats why the name change.

I have never hid on this platform unlike all you who knock me , you all hide behinde the fact that you can use names on here

i don't need to slam Hyster Yale i have said my opinion on Hyster Yale and time will tell on this.

ChrisK claims he has designed built and sold, made money on products what products have you desgned and built ,


now you cliam im here to promote a product. the truth is i dont need to promote the product it promotes its self and the only people that mention it are all you who seem to like what we are doing because you are aways going on about it.

now why dont you just a least make a comment about what you think the future might hold
  • Posted 2 Oct 2021 21:46
  • Modified 2 Oct 2021 22:12 by poster
  • Reply by Letaq60n
  • W. Yorkshire, United Kingdom
Innovators in the past have usually tried and failed several times on a concept , but keep trying until they prevail. Ben Holt (Cat) is a very good example of of this. They brought a product to market , failed and kept on going until they had a product that people wanted. All of your early tractor makers had failures but kept at it until they failed and went out of business or came up with a working product that sold. I do not see any of this from what ever name he is going by now.
  • Posted 2 Oct 2021 20:12
  • Reply by triumphrider
  • Texas, United States
".....us why dont you say what you have achived....."

Well, in the 10+ years you have been at this. I have designed, built, sold, made money, made improvements, made more money on multiple products.

So come Q2 of 2022, you will have done none of those. You'll lie and tell us you have, you will just lack any proof other than your word.
  • Posted 1 Oct 2021 21:53
  • Reply by ChrisK
  • Kansas, United States
He has not slammed Hyster/yale for some reason,Are you sure its Dave?
  • Posted 1 Oct 2021 21:48
  • Reply by triumphrider
  • Texas, United States
Dave, Dave, Dave more garble - So far you only have told us of your DREAM and shown one Lego type model and changed your screen name at least 3 times. In other words, you have produced a dry DREAM and not a wet one - go back to sleep.
  • Posted 1 Oct 2021 20:35
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
"Have An Exceptional Day!"
If you look back on this forum he has been banging on about his dream machine for over 10 years, if all he has after that amount of time is some drawings and no real evidence of an actual machine then it ain't gonna happen.
Must have some real patient investors to wait this long to see a return or do you keep having to look for another mug and that's why the name has changed a number of times!
  • Posted 1 Oct 2021 15:39
  • Reply by mrLifter
  • Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom
not going to get off on it that easy dave...
we're not the ones doing this, promoting this.
But most of us are the ones that have been in this business for many years and have seen snake oil salesmen come and go...
actions speak way louder than words sir...
so...
with that said, you can either produce some tangible evidence or please keep quiet until you can.
  • Posted 1 Oct 2021 11:51
  • Reply by swoop223
  • North Carolina, United States
You've been swooped!
swoop223@gmail.com
lifter01 we are still many many years in front of you. as we have a product and we have the technology.


When i said about ammonia for the fuel you all said that this could not be done, not only have we done it we have shown we have done it.


now some companies are waisting millions on developing hydrogen engines that when compaired to ammonia they are not feasable on the financial side. they stll need hydrogen storing at 350bar they stll need hydrogen that give around 30% less power.


So yes Lifter01 what have you ever achived or done.


One point i have noticed on here is there are plenty of people with opinions about what we are doing but none with any knowlge of what we are doing.

instead of knocking us why dont you say what you have achived, and how you would improve the industry because over the next five years this industry will change to something none of you will understand.

How do i know this because not one of you who critisise us will ever develop a ground breaking idea.
  • Posted 1 Oct 2021 05:18
  • Modified 1 Oct 2021 05:28 by poster
  • Reply by Letaq60n
  • W. Yorkshire, United Kingdom

Post your Reply

Forkliftaction.com accepts no responsibility for forum content and requires forum participants to adhere to the rules. Click here for more information.

Having trouble using the Discussion Forums? Contact us for help.

Upcoming industry events …
June 17-19, 2025 - Rotterdam, Netherlands
August 29, 2025 - Boksburg, South Africa
October 15-17, 2025 - Singapore, Singapore
Global Industry News
edition #1234 - 12 June 2025
As a journalist focussed on the materials handling sector, it is difficult not to notice the regularity of news stories that detail injuries to – or worse still the deaths of – forklift operators... Continue reading
Global Industry News
edition #1234 - 12 June 2025
As a journalist focussed on the materials handling sector, it is difficult not to notice the regularity of news stories that detail injuries to – or worse still the deaths of – forklift operators... Continue reading
UN Forklift FGL25T
HANGZHOU, Zhejiang, China
New - Sale
JLG 450AJ
JLG 450AJ 2017
Flesherton, Ontario, Canada
Used - Sale
Upcoming industry events …
June 17-19, 2025 - Rotterdam, Netherlands
August 29, 2025 - Boksburg, South Africa
October 15-17, 2025 - Singapore, Singapore
Latest job alerts …
Jefferson, WI, United States
Johnston, IA, United States
St. Louis, MO, United States
Upcoming in the editorial calendar
WIRELESS CHARGING
Aug 2025
MANAGING MIXED FLEETS
Oct 2025