Yes, conditions and equipment in the market change constantly. You could argue that since Toyota bought Raymond, you might as well buy Toyota class II products. BUT....Toyota doesn't use the current Raymond models for class II. Just depends on how you look at things. Yale/Hyster has made some strides with their reaches and pickers but they just aren't up to par with the top tier manufacturers. SO, say what you want about change but Crown and Raymond still account for around 60% or more of the class II business in North America.