Swoop, please lets do away with the straw man and hyperbole. This is a discussion, a debate about training standards. I am fully aware that we do things differently and therefore have a difference in opinion. I accept that. I don't need reminding of it. No agenda, other than to determine what your training standards is for fork position. Nothing hidden in that. I've been quite clear. If you don't know then say so. No big deal. If you do know, all you need to do is state it. simple really. Just cut the defensive straw man stuff. It indicates that yours is an opinion only.

You are man enough to swing by and write a 728 word post demanding statistics for 'ankle/leg', and pose questions, give your opinions and clearly state "lets see how this discussion turns now ;o".

You got your discussion. This is how its turned. Surely you can stick around and answer? It is a legitimate question and your response is noted. My stance is clear. Given the requests for verifiable evidence and statistics (your rules) etc I am trying to establish why yours and others opinions differ even in a matter of a few weeks.

I read your post of 25 June 2014 perfectly the first time and second time. I screenshot it for posterity. It says the same. It was this comment I was referring too:-

Quote - "Is it that difficult to drive with forks tilted back?
it only requires a predetermined decision by the operator to decide when he is going to have to level the forks when approaching a pallet or load. That is not that difficult. And it makes him tilt back after grabbing the load to insure safe load carrying. Hope this explains it - Unquote.

Reads clearly to me that you are questioning what is wrong with us using back tilt as it " is not that difficult"! That was most definitely you stating a personal opinion! Please clarify why that has changed?

Perhaps if your opinions weren't so inconsistent and you could clarify to what training standard you are trained to then I wouldn't need to ask. You seemed very opinionated earlier on in the discussion and I thought you would have the answers.

Can you clarify or are your opinions just that, opinions?

Cheers

Jonah