thanks l1tmech, we will check the timing back again.
here is the link that is the same as our engine
http://www.mightyram50.net/vbulletin/showthread.php/1856-2-4L-timing-marks-confusion
which one is correct. the nipple line up to the cam gear or about 1 tooth or half up. the is a play on our cam gear which i think if clockwise the valves will open soon counter will delay the valve opening.
thanks for the input this is a big help
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