Thanks for the input, I to have almost 40 years in the industry and still working with three quarters of those years as a material handling supplier (Yale, Hyster, Crown, Komatsu, Cat, Mitsubishi, Taylor, Grove, Genie, JLG, Cat heavy etc...). I to have attended these shows in the past; ProMat has always made it perfectly clear which venders would be attending including this year so I knew what I was in for before attending. I'm not disappointed with Chicago or with this years show but I am disappointed with the Mfg's not in attendance. All the Mfg's that choose not to attend are major players in the industry which makes it easier for their completion to show case their products. There were an estimated 30,000 people in attendance this year from all over the world which is substantial in anyone's eyes. The Mfg's that did attend had a wealth of information which I fully intend to take advantage of with further purchases this year. So speaking as an end user and as a customer it's my belief those that choose not to show case their products this year could possibly hurt them down the road. As far as Chicago, it's a great place to visit but in my opinion Phoenix has more to offer for conference goers such as, conference facilities (tons of 5 star resorts), more golf courses than just about anywhere, and warm winter weather. Maybe ProMat would consider changing locations in the future?