That's disappointing, Arizona is a little beyond the "300 mile radius" you mentioned and "years ago" too now things have changed a lot in this industry which makes your statement a little weak. As an end user it's nice to have all Mfg's in one place to compare equipment and if they are no shows to a major conference like ProMat it just doesn't show well for them. It makes me think possibly they are having problems which is a turn off for any end user.