Hi Herald i was wondering if linde would use the old linde design like they do in China for the Baoli Brand as a option on a lower cost hydrostatic. At the moment the market in Asia and europe don't really care about brand just price so it might be possible for Linde to do. The only problem would be if Linde did this they could not really charge a premium for the Linde range as they do now. But with Junghienrich Now doing a small Hydrostatic and Cassab also doing hydrostatic and possible using Toyota parts the hydrostatic market is going to be come more competitive