I didn't see Crown at Promat 2009. I do like the new NACCO Yale/Hyster. I have a friend with 5 new Yale NR reach trucks and he is getting 2-3 hours more run time with them. They put power pack into the battery when being lowerd. Who dosen't like free money? I am looking at a new one for our plant in the spring and keeping a close eye on his Yale's,so far so good after 1 year in service. There are some real nice reach trucks in the market today!!! I remember the Namco LP reach truck in the 60's..........lol ouch!