I've heard some good w/ the turret and some bad. I know there is an engineer from Germany who is very knowledgeable I've seen the turret, three wheel, reach and end rider in the field. Wasn't impressed w/ the reach (seems like they ripped off a little from raymond and crown). Not impressed by the end rider at all nor was the customer who had it on demo. I knew a few guys who worked at the Jungheinrich factory location when it was in Elk Grove. It appears this venture didn't work out very well. How will having two dealers who aren't welll known in the narrow aisle business be more successful?