This is not to mean any offense, Tugmaster. The only people/customers that I know that would agree that Lindes are too complicated or too expensive to repair are the ones that have tech's work on them that are not familiar with the trucks. Kind of like an auto tech working on an LP forklift truck. If it doesn't start or run correctly, someting in the LP system is always to blame because thats the part that they are not familair with. Talk about expensive, there was earlier forum where someone was looking for a used hood for a 5 series Toyota beacause the delaer wanted $3,500 for it.