yes i think knowing them and the type of people they are most stories might be true. I remember when i worked for a company and they had a boss like this no one knew if they were coming or going. In a way it goes to show there was some good people at Boss just to get where they did with what they had to work with.

That sounds similar to Trevor and the Coke dispenser Engineer !!!!

But that company has many mad stories

Some of them must be true,

Yes i think the Germans never got over losing Stienbock and wanted Boss at any price. The real shame was it put a lot of good decent people out of work when it shut the big truck plant which i think could have gone on under the Boss Name. When i went down to Boss i heard all sorts of stories about him and even the one about the milk man. That one will go down in Boss history. But taking a way the bad management at Boss the engineers were very good and some of there idea's were also good.

The reason for different engines, transmissions and drive axles was that they would run one supplier up to the credit limit then move to another until they were at the credit limit and so on, they would then pay the first supplier and then it goes on!! This is why all Boss machines had a works order number so you could trace back the build sheet. I dealt with Boss for many years and I could write a book on stories from the factory, including the day Snivel sacked the milkman!!

I guess he wasn't just shipping is left overs to the "colonies" eh!
After I found he had been knighted I lost all my respect for Sir Lancelot & Sean Connery (who played Lancelot in a movie). See all always thought knights were men of honor up to that point.

Johnr J

that was normal
Trucks were put together with anything they could find
Supplier problems at the time !!!!!!!?????

No 2 trucks were ever the same
Company only kept going because of exceptional local after sales service.

Dave

My opinion is that ge Germans never forgave him for " stealing " Steinbock from under their noses and wanted it back at any price.

Just my opinion.

Normandy,
I agree with your comments on Sir NBS. I worked with him and his side kick Trevor when LB had a private label agreement with Allis Chalmers for their side loaders & large capacity pneumatic. He was arrogant then and those were they days before he was "knighted".
His company would send us the same model truck with different transmissions, engines and no advanced notification. But we would hear "Oh, I'm sorry and I'll look into it" that never happened cause it would happen again.
On top of that his equipment never seem to hold up well in the US market. We lost good customers over this.

No he just makes me laugh. I'd give up rather than go into China. We don't even look to work there if we did there would be copies by the end of the Month. Look at kalmar they went in set up a plant and the Chinese just blatantly copied them. Look at the Samuk BY 14 if that's not a Kalmar Copy than i don't know what is.


In a way i do feel sorry for him because Junghierich did use the German banks to get Boss. Like you said there were some very good engineers that were at Boss and they should have been listened to things might be different there. One strange thing though can't work out why Junghienrich got out of big trucks could have run them under the Boss name and done well but they wanted out they only wanted VNA trucks and junghienrich never wanted to sell Boss i have the sales doc and they never wanted to sell.

Yes

But NBS is one of the most arrogant men in the world.

In his time he had some of the best staff available but he never listened to any of them. If he did just maybe he would still have control of LB.

I also remember how he was scathing about not only the Japanese but would howl with laughter about a Chinese forklift. Look what happened then !!!!!!!!.

Don't use him as a guideline or you will end up in China.

Hi normandy


We have not given up on Shaw , Shaw will still produce the iLift in the 6,000kg - 8,000kg we have had to just move the big trucks out for investment reasons. This has allowed us to be able to move forward with the project. Like i have said it has been hard work and if i knew back then what i know now i would have done things different. I allays remember Sir Neville Bowman Shaw wants saying that if he was to go back into manufacturing he would need he head testing. I understand why

Thanks powerlifter. the people that did the video put a lot of hard work into it so when people say its good it is appreciated. All parts used in it come from European suppliers like Mercedes Benz so quality is top of our priorities. Because we are a new set up and don't need lairs of management and have a unique manufacturing process that allows us to be highly competitive when it comes down to price. What we really understand is customer service and what the customer expects for a long time customers have not really been given the service they require and with our exchange system that allow's for customers to be able to have there truck back in service in under a fixed time if a fault was to arise.Mercedes Benz have a saying the best or nothing we understand this and follow the same prince-able

Dave

To be fair I think we all would love you to succeed. It is a brave thing that you are doing and I agree that you have put a lot of effort into it.

Maybe we all would loved to have the courage and connections with cash to try it.

Sometimes when you try the impossible it works.

Shaw had good ideas as well but they did not make it work.
Be Realistic as well.

Dave
This may be a cartoon but it's a good one and i personally can see alot of hard work and time as gone into doing it.
People need to look beyond the cartoon and see what is on offer.
I really hope the development,your investment and business grows because of it.
Been along time since an outside manifacturer decided to challenge the well known one's.
Lets hope it does'nt follow in the same footsteps as alot of the other cheap Rubbish from Asia.
I really wish you luck and if it turns out to be as good as you say, i personally will look forward to working on it.....

We will be very competitive on price. You say Linde is a safe option we use Mercedes Benz engines.These are one of the worlds best companies and produce world class products some of which we use. Also as i have pointed out customers we have spoken to have all pointed out that they would use our products for the service we can deliver at the price we will charge. Kalmar might be at the top at the moment but they won't be there in 5 years time. They have not made any significant development over the last 10 years and kone have caught them with a similar product but again these are still way behind what we can offer. We have Saudi partners who are not just coming into this to be another manufacture they want to be the best and we are setting the new standards for forklift design.

Dave. This remains a price sensitive market. You have the premium Scandinavian suppliers at the top - the Koreans and Japanese at the bottom and the remaining European manufactured trucks somewhere in the middle. Where do you see your machine fitting amongst these?

Moreover, if it is a hydrostatic, why would a customer not buy the safe option of Linde instead?