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insurance???

just want some thoughts, on if myself or my fellow employees use to much health insurace, should i have points taken off during my review???
  • Posted 14 Jun 2011 09:37
  • By ponykilla
  • joined 27 Feb'10 - 4 messages
  • Florida, United States
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Actually, the only real legal issue the company can use is reliability. Whether they are self insured or contract through an insurance company, they can't "slap" yu for using the health insurance. However, if you or a family member has a chronic illness, and you do not show up for work because of that, then you do have reliability and dependability issues. Here is the rub, I am not sure that the employer / supervisor giving you the review can say much more than something about reliability or dependibility but, they do not have to keep you employed either! Be sure you cover all your bases, if it is a family member, make sure that you use vacation time when necessary and don't forget FMLA.

Good Luck
  • Posted 21 Jun 2011 00:43
  • By just_a_guy
  • joined 11 Feb'10 - 16 messages
  • South Carolina, United States
that is insane! Of course our employer just did where the amount the company pays of your insurance premium is based on how long you've been here.

Not a big deal to most, but as one of the few married guys with a family having been here under 10 years mine tripled to nearly 975 per month out of my check. Also has made hiring a new married employee near impossible when you tell them their insurance will be that much.

of course economy is tight and all...just glad owner got his new 100k+ car, big advance and company golfing trip to bahamas on private jet last month.
  • Posted 20 Jun 2011 22:06
  • By Jbird
  • joined 31 May'11 - 8 messages
  • Virginia, United States
**** NO!!!!
  • Posted 16 Jun 2011 02:26
  • By chublil
  • joined 28 Jul'09 - 187 messages
  • California, United States
Fix it right!!!
Still is against the law and it's even worse now with the HIPPA laws, because unless its workmans comp no one is supposed to know anything about your medical issues unless you file for FMLA then you have to state the reason for absence.
  • Posted 15 Jun 2011 03:22
  • By bigGlittlestar
  • joined 12 Aug'08 - 139 messages
  • United States
While this topic is almost an exclusive of USains, I appreciate it being brought up in this (work related) forum.
I feel pretty strongly about this. Not because anyone in my family has ever had any sort of 'chronic illness' but just because of my own thoughts on what is correct, what is plain wrong, why we pay for insurance in the first place, and how I feel sure that insurance that is part of your compensation package is supposed to work for everyone's benefit (not just the young and healthy and/or the old and corporate ownership).
How "much" health insurance -you- (or your family) use should NEVER be considered during a discussion of work related performance, and should not even be allowed as a topic of discussion, any more than race, age, religion, political party affiliation or nation of birth and I am pretty sure, in fact, is covered under "HIPAA" as a point of confidence that the insurance company may not share with the employer as identifying anyone in particular.
We all have to recognize that we do have an obligation to each other and everyone else not to waste precious and limited resources, of which health care providers time (just like all of our time) is most assuredly limited, but if someone in your family suddenly needs health care (that was already paid for in your compensation package), it should not ever come into the thought process that it might effect my performance review if someone needed a $100,000.00 USD operation to save their life or to be able to return that person to a productive individual.
What is the reason we pay for health care in advance as part of our compensation packages, if it is going to be "graded" on our ability to not use those same services when we NEED that specialized care (not -want- to flirt with a nurse, or don't -want- to bother clipping our toenails).

Ponykilla, has this happened to you, (?is it in writing?) or is this just something that you have considered?
Florida's Office of the Insurance Commissioner and the NLRB (national labor relation board) and the Office for Civil Rights of Dept of HHS , [the feds] may like to hear your side of the story, and see any documents you can provide to back up the facts, since I am pretty sure this was against US federal and Florida state law 10 years ago, I just don't know if they changed the law, but I would be surprised if they did.
  • Posted 14 Jun 2011 20:32
  • Modified 15 Jun 2011 04:01 by poster
  • By edward_t
  • joined 5 Mar'08 - 2,334 messages
  • South Carolina, United States
"it's not rocket surgery"
It seems a bit unfair, unless somehow this use of health insurance is related to your job/responsibilities performance - i.e.. too many visits to the Dr. office, etc.
Not knowing the whole picture (there are always two sides to every story) it is hard to for anyone to make a judgement based on one sentence of information,
  • Posted 14 Jun 2011 20:19
  • By johnr_j
  • joined 3 Jun'06 - 1,452 messages
  • Georgia, United States
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