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In the market for used lift truck

Hello friends
We are in the market for a lift truck right now and I am looking for some professional opinions!

We are looking for a 4000-5000 lb capacity lift truck, with a minimum of triple mast and side shift.

What would be nice is a quad mast with 240" reach.

In a perfect world we would like to purchase: triple mast with rotating forks and the ability to widen/close forks to tip pallets and boxes.

I would appreciate some advice as to a good manufacturer and even a model type that would be of great value to us. We are looking at early to mid 2000 models of linde, hyster, and cat.

The environment is indoors, very little outdoor use so will require LP and wheels to make it through snow when need be.

Thanks!!
  • Posted 15 Oct 2010 22:19
  • By mario_j
  • joined 15 Oct'10 - 15 messages
  • Ohio, United States
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Lindes are great trucks - sold them in my past. Two of the biggest issues I had in selling them are expierence with long deliveries on parts from the US parts depot from time to time (majority of componets are made overseas in Europe) & the "unique" two pedal foot directional control (customers/owners were leer of it from liability stan point especially where there were muliple users or frequent turn over of fork lift operators).
In my opinion, today's Clark models are sound units, the uprights are very solid in structure & design, important when it comes to rotating, clamp attachments. When it comes to lifting capacity I found that the Clark machine weighed 500 - 800 lbs more than the majority of equvalent competitve models. I concurr on the Bolzoni attachment - good /solid reputation and less expensive that Cascade.
  • Posted 18 Oct 2010 12:02
  • By johnr_j
  • joined 3 Jun'06 - 1,452 messages
  • Georgia, United States
Late model Lindes are one of the most robust lift trucks on the market. I am only hesitant about recommending them because their proprietary software is so well engineered to prevent anyone other than an authorised dealer to do the simplest tasks that you are more or less handcuffed to the dealer, which in my mind breaches antitrust laws that were settled in the courts for automobiles, someone needs to do the same for lift trucks IMO... in the meantime I recommend toyotas because they can all be serviced by independents so long as they have proper training and the passwords/info which is circulating...
when i buy a machine i like having options on who to go to for service because if i don't, that dealer can then treat me however they like and that really bugs me. So get a really good feel for the local linde dealer and get testimonials from other clients before buying a linde, you may have a really good experience with it, or not. it depends on the people. i know a really good guy in the new york area...
  • Posted 18 Oct 2010 03:34
  • By steponmebbbboom
  • joined 21 Nov'05 - 189 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
Thanks!
The more I thought about it the more apparent it became that I would need 2 machines to achieve our goals.

I am trying to dig up information on a 2007 linde H20, to see if it can lift what we need it to. I understand it is a 4000 lb cap machine, triple mast, and we will need to climb to about 15' for our top rack, which at most the load will weight 2000 lbs at that height. Any idea if that can be done safely?

We are going to budget for a machine 2nd or 3rd quarter next year - 8000 to 10000 cap machine with rotating forks and clamp.
  • Posted 17 Oct 2010 05:56
  • By mario_j
  • joined 15 Oct'10 - 15 messages
  • Ohio, United States
A quad truck will have to be quite large to safely handle 5000lbs on the forks plus the weight of the attachment. Keep in mind a turnafork attachment alone will weigh close to 1000lbs, and will move the LMC (distance from axle centerline to heel of fork) a good six inches or so (again based on a capacity of 5000lbs) so with that and a quad lifting all this mess to 240" or even 189" with a triple, youll need a big hefty lift truck. if you want to drive it in the snow on top of that, it will have to be a pneumatic, and then it will be even bigger. and make sure whomever sells this truck to you has properly derated the mast to reflect the attachment!!! If someone bangs on a turnafork with positioner onto a standard 5000lb truck with no sideshift, you'll be tipping it over with half the rated load on the forks!
these are uncommon specs all grouped together like that, so finding a used lift truck with all those features will severely limit your options. how long can you wait? consider leasing a new machine with a maintenance contract; with warranty, guaranteed maintenance and possible tax breaks on a lease you may find your operating costs cheaper and certainly easier to forecast.
you might also want to consider redesigning the handling operations between two different lift trucks so you dont end up with a monster you can't run in your warehouse. what can you sacrifice to get the job done?
I like cascade quad masts and attachments, but have heard good things about bolzoni attachments being cheaper but still reasonably reliable. I have always been partial to toyotas but there are plenty of lower-cost trucks out there that will do the job in a lower volume application.
  • Posted 16 Oct 2010 11:04
  • By steponmebbbboom
  • joined 21 Nov'05 - 189 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
With a quad, you will most likley be sacraficing forward visibility and some capacity. With the snow you will want a pnuematic type with higher clearance.
I will leave the brand talk to the techs.
Dave
  • Posted 16 Oct 2010 02:32
  • By TradeShowDave
  • joined 14 Mar'09 - 48 messages
  • California, United States

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