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Hyster Maximal

Hyster will soon if not already start to use maximal products for their Utilev Brand so how will this effect Hangcha. Hangcha have been building Utilev forklifts for some time and would have access to the Hyster Yale dealer network so what is stopping them approaching dealers directly to offer spare parts for trucks already in the market and also offering the their own products.

Hyster has also said they will produce a hydrogen fuel cell reachstacker. will this be the same type of white elephant like the container handling sideloader of the 1970's. The cost of a hydrogen reachstacker or container handling forklift would be in the high end of the hundreds of thousands of dollars and the running cost would be something like 31 dollars per hour to run just on fuel with a multi million dollar refueling system needed as well. a diesel reachstacker would cost around half the cost of a hydrogen one and would cost around 16 dollars per hour to run.

An ammoina Hybrid reachstacker would be 100% zero emission and would cost around the same price as a diesel reachstacker and would cost around 5 dollars per hour to run and would not need a very expensive refueling system
  • Posted 28 Mar 2019 07:43
  • Modified 28 Mar 2019 07:44 by poster
  • Discussion started by exalt
  • Dubai, United Arab Emirates
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Nobody knows anything about you, "your" company or "your project" isn't that why your here?
I don't need to know anything about your company I'm speaking with you on a forum you chose to start threads in. As John stated your own comments have been used against you, yet you neglect to acknowledge that. That is a fact. All the evidence is here for all to see.
  • Posted 4 Apr 2019 08:24
  • Reply by stam
  • Ontario, Canada
One more thing you might want to read what the USA OSHA (Occupational Safety & Health Act) says about ammonia. While it is not common for things being transported over the road via tractor (trailer or tanker) to overturn they do happen- mostly around refineries & chemical plant - lived in Houston, Pasadena and been thru Beaumont, TX many times ( recall the free way shutdown when it happened) Don't think I'd want any thing like this to tip over in my neighborhood who would - raise their hand.
www dot osha dot gov/SLTC/etools/ammonia_refrigeration/emergency/index (dot.html replace dot with / and delete spaces
  • Posted 4 Apr 2019 07:52
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
As to your ever moving launch date. I quoted directly from the source. You. But you fail to acknowledge your own statements.
Sounds similar actions of an Artful Dodger as defined by the Urban Dictionary vs Dickens character in Oliver Twist.
  • Posted 4 Apr 2019 07:08
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
you are quoting from a website that's has not been in use for a couple of years. If you knew anything about our company or our project you would at least know our website
  • Posted 4 Apr 2019 06:55
  • Reply by exalt
  • Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Right here live and direct.
All I have to go on is your misspelled sentences. You dig your own hole.
  • Posted 4 Apr 2019 06:51
  • Reply by stam
  • Ontario, Canada
Technology has improved greatly over the last number of years and with these technology advances we have been able to improve a number of things. Like i said there are Millions upon Millions of tons of ammonia transported and used safely every year


what we are able to do is use some of these millions of tons of ammonia to run forklifts at 100% ZERO EMISSION with 20 hour range and 10 min refueling
  • Posted 4 Apr 2019 06:12
  • Modified 4 Apr 2019 06:15 by poster
  • Reply by exalt
  • Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Then why did the discontinue the ammonia refrigerators that worked with a flame instead of a compressor. Had no moving parts and had triple the lifespan of a compressor driven fridge.
  • Posted 4 Apr 2019 05:57
  • Reply by Yidneck
  • New York, United States
Dreamt I was fixing a machine, then came the paperwork and it turned into a nightmare.
Wow there are tens if not hundreds of millions of tons of ammonia shipped by road, rail, sea and even in pipelines every year. This so dangerous gas must kill tens of thousands of people every year.

Well just a point the Backbird plane is powered by ammonia and it will fly over California as well as the rest of the USA so yes ammonia will really fly in all the USA.

There will be enough interest from good dealers. No dealer will want to be behind when their customers want a 100% zero emission truck with up to 20 hour range and 10 min refuel time. As well as all the other benefits our truck can offer. as against LPG that will be only 65% Zero emission and battery powered trucks that will have only a six hour range maximum and at least a three hour charge time. Or Hydrogen that need a multi million dollar refueling system and cost four time more to run and twice as much to purchase



Stam you are years behind at least get the right website
  • Posted 4 Apr 2019 05:52
  • Modified 4 Apr 2019 05:53 by poster
  • Reply by exalt
  • Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Back in 2013 he should have said coming 2022 2023 not coming 2014.

With a history logged on here of unkept promises I bet it will be hard to find to find good distributors.
  • Posted 4 Apr 2019 05:17
  • Modified 4 Apr 2019 11:50 by administrator
  • Reply by stam
  • Ontario, Canada
Just recalled something that might be used to power this lift. Baking soda and water. When I was a youngster I remember seeing this mixture power a submarine both up & down longitudinally - no emissions And would also power frog man up to the surface without any effort.

Here are the by products of combining these two.
Baking soda added to water raises the temperature slightly.
Chemical reactions are either endothermic or exothermic.... Baking soda is NaHCO3 and water is H2O. Added together you get NaOH and H2CO3 which are sodium hydroxide and carbonic acid. Carbonic acid is the fizz in soda.

And all this happened right in my bath tub while taking my Saturday night bath getting ready to go to church the next morning. Think I had to send 50 cents & a cereal box top to get the submarine and the same for the frog man. Oh did my imagination go wild with those toys.
  • Posted 4 Apr 2019 03:41
  • Modified 16 Apr 2019 21:08 by poster
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
I don't think lpg is deadly on inhalation unless you breathe enough to displace oxygen. Ammonia on the other hand....
It won't fly in California and probably not in the rest of the U.S. either.
  • Posted 3 Apr 2019 23:43
  • Reply by Yidneck
  • New York, United States
Dreamt I was fixing a machine, then came the paperwork and it turned into a nightmare.
Beam me up Scotty.
  • Posted 3 Apr 2019 21:37
  • Reply by triumphrider
  • Texas, United States
Ammonia was used to create blueprints. In my first job after college I work very close to the blueprint room and one day a rather large & full plastic cylinder of ammonia fell over and fumes were everywhere (like one of those vaping pipes).. Of course, every one got out but some people had respiratory issues. Below is what ammonia fumes can do when inhaled. This sounds serious to me.
Inhalation: Ammonia is irritating and corrosive. Exposure to high concentrations of ammonia in air causes immediate burning of the nose, throat and respiratory tract. This can cause bronchiolar and alveolar edema, and airway destruction resulting in respiratory distress or failure.

FYI, my Father was gassed during WWI during the Meusse -
Argonne campaign. The effects of this did not show up until latter in life. That gas was very caustic too.
  • Posted 3 Apr 2019 21:02
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
well lifter01 how **** deadly is ammonia, compared to everything else. after the second world war Belgium ran buses on ammonia with no fatalities or injuries to any one.

You could say the 700 volt system Hyster plan to use of their hydrogen reachstacker is **** deadly or Evan the hydrogen is **** deadly.

electric is **** deadly how many people are killed each year from electric shocks.


what about petrol or diesel fumes from these could be deadly.


Both lead acid and lithium iron batteries could be deadly

So really you can say anything is deadly if the right precautions are not taken.

The system is a hybrid system using nickel zinc batteries
  • Posted 3 Apr 2019 06:29
  • Modified 3 Apr 2019 06:45 by poster
  • Reply by exalt
  • Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Amonnia isn't dangerous exalt is **** deadly, one of the reason a lot of freezer/chiller manufacturers are moving to co2 from ammonia is for that reason alone. I thought you said earlier you were going to use zinc batteries because that was the future?? Now it's ammonia make your mind up pal. By the way it's now April you didnt state in an earlier post that as well as using zinc batteries your truck would be shown to the public in April 2019?? has it got a Klingon cloaking device fitted to it?? If so that would make it a truly awesome machine.
  • Posted 3 Apr 2019 04:54
  • Modified 3 Apr 2019 04:55 by poster
  • Reply by lifter01
  • West Yorkshire, United Kingdom

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