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Battery Desulfation

Has anybody been checking out the different types of battery desulfation machine that are on the market now and increasingly growing. any feedback?
  • Posted 17 Jun 2010 05:31
  • Modified 17 Jun 2010 05:32 by poster
  • Discussion started by 67dave67
  • British Columbia, Canada
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From the energic plus brand, it's called RE-PLUS distributed by TVH parts in belgium. If you want i can send you more detailled information.
  • Posted 10 Dec 2011 00:20
  • Reply by REPLUS
  • West Vlaanderen, Belgium
I agree with you 100% on proper care. 30 years in this Ind. has taught me a lot. What kind of HF charger do you use??
  • Posted 10 Dec 2011 00:07
  • Reply by DanConroy
  • Ohio, United States
Dear,

We have been testing a lot of these battery regeneration techniques. Like there is battery zulu, MACBAT, BSI, Batterie plus,....you can not name it or we have done it. I can say that all of these techniques work. One technique more efficiently then another but they do work.
I can also tell you that the best way to take out the sulphation in a battery is to prevent it from getting there in the first place. This by maintaning your battery in the best possible way. Charger and battery in perfect ballance, always giving enough water after it has been charged. giving it a weekly equalisation charge every weekend.

That so far for the theory.... in real life we practically don't see a well maintained battery. therefore sulfation builds up and these techniques can be very handy. We have had results from 40% capacity back up to 79%.

thats why we have started with sales and promotion of regeneration technique that is the combination of charger and discharger (5 cycles max 42hours) and that works with high frequency pulsing. This way your battery isn't under a lot of stress and the sulfate is partially removed so you can use it again everyday without the need of giving it an extra charge during the day.
  • Posted 10 Dec 2011 00:04
  • Reply by REPLUS
  • West Vlaanderen, Belgium
The ONLY thing I have ever seen that actually works is Hawkers (The old KW, Westinghouse battery co.) Life Plus series chargers. The reason they do work is they use a hi frequency PWM type charge. This causes far less heat generation during the charge cycle. In the long run, this helps the battery last longer and, when cycled to 80% discharge properly, will significantly increase battery life well beyond the 8yr. mfg. design spec. The Life Plus also uses about 40% LESS A/C power to operate. The Mfg. is confident enough to extend the warranty of its batteries to a full 6 years. In the late 80's they actually went to 7yrs. for a short time.
  • Posted 9 Dec 2011 22:47
  • Reply by DanConroy
  • Ohio, United States
The first wheels carved out of stone in days before history began begets the same basic concept as the wheels on our glorious space shuttle - correct? Is it not also correct that the folks who designed the wheels on the space shuttle spent money, time, and effort developing them so that they will conform somewhat better than the original stone wheels for the intended application? John, You seem to be looking for an argument- Ask me no more - if you are truly interested in this tech. - whether it is to debunk or to elevate it to your most wise and learned standards, seek a word from one of BattLife's valued and long-term customers. Thanks for your interest in magnetic resonance, high frequency pulse technologies...
  • Posted 9 Dec 2011 14:21
  • Reply by RockandRoll
  • Florida, United States
www.BattLife.co
Toll Free 888-357-6489
R & R,
You are the one that made the point this technology was used on the German U Boats in a previous post not me. I merely played off your statement which now must be inaccurate based on your latest comment. What is right???.
  • Posted 9 Dec 2011 12:55
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
Interesting observation John- if it were accurate. There are many, many very keen users of resonance pulse technology in Europe - Just Google it. This isn't about taking sides. Companies often find that their trucks aren't giving them the production they require. I've followed behind manufactures' reps who have told these companies that it's time to replace their batteries, no ifs ands or buts; see Baers Furniture in Florida, a BattLife customer. Our use of this tech goes beyond equalization, acid adjustments, battery boiling, Epson's salt, and a whole slew of snake oil. It is evident that Baers WILL have to replace their batteries eventually but they haven't had to in well over a year since we interrupted the waste stream of these batteries going to the smelter. Also consider that this tech needed to be developed for our industry. Development is not free, it takes time, and if the tech. has been sitting around collecting dust as you suggest, it is with the good company of Nickola Tesla's wonderful and ignored patents.
I think it's time the GM to stand back and let you all sort it out. Thanks for indulging me.
And thanks for your observation, KiwiAndy.
  • Posted 9 Dec 2011 06:33
  • Reply by RockandRoll
  • Florida, United States
www.BattLife.co
Toll Free 888-357-6489
hmm but I dont ever see the battery companies supporting anything that will affect their ability to sell new batteries.. or their proprietary chargers.
  • Posted 9 Dec 2011 05:40
  • Reply by KiwiAndy
  • Canteerbury, New Zealand
www.enatel-mp.com
RockandRoll,
If this technology was developed by the German in WWII or ~70 years ago why did it just become a popular thing recently. The Germans (& much of Europe) are very keen on electric powered vehicles including lift trucks for some time now and they very good at marketing their technology - just ask them.
Sorry, I'm am with Arminus & Dave Conroy side
  • Posted 9 Dec 2011 05:09
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
I have been using it for about a year now and have had some great success as well as a few failures, it has never damaged any batteries but if a battery is damaged or shorted it will not fix it, but does a great job on trucks that have been improperly chargered.
we use it a lot on our rental fleet as a maintenance as well as used equipment that comes in, we have tried selling it as a service but usally by the time a customer has a need for it it is too late for the battery. As far as the Battery manufactures go they would be shooting themselves in the foot to endorse such a service. All it is is a battery desulfator, nothing more. it just takes the place of proper charging.
  • Posted 9 Dec 2011 05:09
  • Reply by 67dave67
  • British Columbia, Canada
It would be nice to hear from some one other than the general manager of the company.
  • Posted 9 Dec 2011 04:17
  • Reply by scot_s
  • Michigan, United States
Battery manufactures will not necessarily want to endorse a product or service that interrupts their production and sales streams. If rejuvenation were more widely used, said interruption could be significant. Note: Broken cells are not healed with fairy dust and must be replaced. But give me a 30%, 40% battery with no shorts and I'll absolutely guarantee gains to at least 75% EFF that will last at least a year.
  • Posted 9 Dec 2011 03:34
  • Reply by RockandRoll
  • Florida, United States
www.BattLife.co
Toll Free 888-357-6489
To Arminus: The warranty we are talking about is delivered and upheld by the company that is extending the life of these batteries. Again, the company is BattLife Inc. Call Larry Kratish from Hallmark Stevedoring and see what he thinks about BattLife's rejuvenation, warranties and life extension services...Thanks for your comments
  • Posted 9 Dec 2011 03:23
  • Reply by RockandRoll
  • Florida, United States
www.BattLife.co
Toll Free 888-357-6489
Please show me where ONE, just ONE, MANUFACTURER has extended their warranty as a result of the use of one of these AFTERMARKET products.

You can't because there isn't one. End of discussion.

Save your money.
  • Posted 9 Dec 2011 02:54
  • Reply by arminius
  • California, United States
There is a company that focuses on industrial batteries. It's more of a service than a product. Their services actually increase manufacture's warranties... It's called BattLife Inc. Hope this helps...
  • Posted 9 Dec 2011 02:33
  • Reply by RockandRoll
  • Florida, United States

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