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Are Canada Shipments Impacted by Toyota Emission Issue???

There is a lot of confusion in the market about whether or not Toyota USA can continue to build LPG trucks without 2021 EPA approval and ship them into Canada. Would be great to understand whether or not the Canadian market will be impacted with this Toyota emission issue.
  • Posted 4 Jun 2021 07:03
  • Discussion started by Irvington
  • California, United States
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The $180M Toyota settlement with the EPA earlier this year was automotive related - not associated with the industrial lift truck side. The exact issue with the 2021 emission certifications on the lift truck side has still yet to be revealed. It could be a problem with the engines, it could be a paperwork issue, it could be a reporting problem similar to what happened on the automotive side. Fact is, no one outside of Toyota and the EPA really knows yet. But yes, I'm in total agreement with you that the significant number of trucks that have been sitting in storage since the beginning of this year will have an unprecedented negative, and unfair impact on honest, hardworking non-Toyota dealers located in the regions (Canada, Mexico, Central America, etc) those trucks are eventually sent to. Governments should play a role in ensuring Toyota doesn't sidestep dumping laws in an effort to dig themselves out of the mess they find themselves in. This is the craziest situation I've ever seen in this industry and everyone will be watching what unfolds once the facts come out.
  • Posted 14 Jun 2021 01:07
  • Reply by Irvington
  • California, United States
Funny how the shift of blame goes to the government. Toyota knew what they were doing and did it anyway. Like poor Volkswagen when they got caught. Toyota was fined $180 million and misled their customer regarding the nature of the delayed deliveries for trucks ordered, correct? What of the driver who was only 1 point above the legal limit, blame the cop who pulled him/her over? Think of the impact to the market when they release/dump 13,000 currently parked new trucks on the market. Anyone who thinks that will not have an unprecedented impact may have to rethink. It will be interesting.
  • Posted 14 Jun 2021 00:33
  • Reply by liftmaster
  • Texas, United States
Uwe B.
The only problem i see with that is what if some of the units ended back in the us? I know LPG motors are some of the least polluting motors without all the Emissions controls so what gives? I think the skilled american workers employed by Toyota are getting the shaft on this one Has anyone thought about testing the chinese built forklifts foe emission standards? I know parts are a horror story to get, What about emission parts. What really concerns me about this is the chinese want to control our material handling industries. This is a very important part of our national defense.
  • Posted 10 Jun 2021 02:16
  • Reply by triumphrider
  • Texas, United States
Hearing whispers that the Canadian government will be allowing Toyota USA to ship several thousand of those stockpiled trucks sitting in Indiana without the EPA certification into Canada. Also hearing that the stop production executed by Toyota earlier this month will apply to Canada. None of this in writing from Toyota or the Canadian government, but that is the word circulating amongst several Canadian dealers. Anyone hearing similar? Be nice to see a press release from corporate Toyota to help set the record straight on something as important as this.
  • Posted 9 Jun 2021 21:54
  • Reply by Irvington
  • California, United States
Good question,do the canadians have the same emissions standards as the US. I know all my units have C.A.R.B. emission standard certification. Any time a government can kill thousands of jobs with a swipe of a pen per the Keystone Pipeline, then whats a couple of thousand of good paying factory to them. Toyota needs to be in the mix of builders of material handling equipment for no other reason than competition keeps innovation at the forefront of good business practices. It is really sad to see this. Toyota could hire some useless former government official with connections to serve on some board and get around this. I hope they do not and fight this. We need the competition and the skilled jobs here. I wonder, do the Chinese have the same level inspection standards as everybody elese does.
  • Posted 4 Jun 2021 20:33
  • Reply by triumphrider
  • Texas, United States

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