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2005 nissan 50 starts but does not run right

I just purchased a 2005 Nissan 50 at a auction and it starts but is not running right it sounds like it is not in time right it is popping in the air filter area when you try to give it gas. Is there any common problems with these? When it is idling it sounds like it is missing.
  • Posted 1 Dec 2013 01:45
  • By fabandy
  • joined 1 Dec'13 - 12 messages
  • Kansas, United States
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not sure what vaporizer you have on this truck, i will assume it is an aisan? These usually operate at a pressure of around 32-36kpa (4.6 - 5.2 psi)
so the pressure you said is around what it should be.
your problem may be in the injector body or throttle body.

but as was suggested, if you are not familiar with this truck get a qualified service tech to come out and properly diagnose this issue.

good luck
  • Posted 14 Feb 2014 22:54
  • By swoop223
  • joined 23 Mar'12 - 3,691 messages
  • North Carolina, United States
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fabandy i am going to highly suggest in getting a factory trained tech to come out and diagnose your woes as you are compounding the problems with adjusting the regulator. We cant win them all and if we could, we would not have a job.
  • Posted 14 Feb 2014 22:09
  • By RCAV8TOR
  • joined 12 Nov'11 - 366 messages
  • Alabama, United States
What i used to do all day now takes me all day to do.
i finaly got some time to look at this fork truck and i think it is in the vaporizor but am not for sure the truck will start and idle good but as soon as you try to giv eyou throttl it bogs out and i checked the out put on the vaporizor and it only has about 4 lbs of pressure all the time. I adjusted the vaporizor manually and got the pressure to go up but it stayed there all the time and did not go up or down. any help would be great.
  • Posted 13 Feb 2014 10:58
  • By fabandy
  • joined 1 Dec'13 - 12 messages
  • Kansas, United States
Edward i dont like the word removal but if he has to do so he will have 3 head gaskets to choose from. Gasoline only, dual fuel and lpg.
The timing gears are pretty much bullet proof on these units as i have never had to replace a set. Possible if the engine has been run hot hot that the valve seat has dropped. I am hoping he performs a comp check before pulling the head tho. A dropped valve seat will be easy to identify by checking the return height of valves with a straight edge laid across valve train with rocker rack removed.
  • Posted 3 Jan 2014 10:44
  • Modified 3 Jan 2014 10:45 by poster
  • By RCAV8TOR
  • joined 12 Nov'11 - 366 messages
  • Alabama, United States
What i used to do all day now takes me all day to do.
Check to see if you do not have a couple coil connectors on wrong coils ( like crosswiring plugs wires). As edward also said make sure your assist injector is assisting and not letting unit lean out. Check valve lash and set on.017 cold or.015 hot. Perform a compression test on all cylinders. Anymore codes?
  • Posted 3 Jan 2014 10:32
  • By RCAV8TOR
  • joined 12 Nov'11 - 366 messages
  • Alabama, United States
What i used to do all day now takes me all day to do.
This sounds a lot like a bad assistant injector (as has been mentioned) or a burnt valve or head gasket. I think you are going to get to pull the head.
There are some known 'less than perfect' wire concerns with the wires right near the throttle body, and checking them for continuity from the ECM to the injectors and throttle body would certainly cost less than throwing parts at this truck.
  • Posted 3 Jan 2014 10:17
  • By edward_t
  • joined 5 Mar'08 - 2,334 messages
  • South Carolina, United States
"it's not rocket surgery"
also if you give it any throttle at all it just pops through the intake and dies out.
  • Posted 2 Jan 2014 23:53
  • By fabandy
  • joined 1 Dec'13 - 12 messages
  • Kansas, United States
I appreciate all the comments unfortunately I work more than on the computer and we are in the middle of having a whole bunch of new equipment put into our shop so I have been busy. I checked spark with a spark tester and compression was ok. I will have to check the intake for a crack. I was wondering if there was any problems with the wiring harness on these I have heard from some one who worked there that it was in need of a new harness.
  • Posted 2 Jan 2014 23:50
  • By fabandy
  • joined 1 Dec'13 - 12 messages
  • Kansas, United States
the manifold cracking must not be all that uncommon as i've seen others mention this problem before on these engines.
I myself have never had to deal with that but i've seen enough references to not ignore the probability of it being part of the cause.
  • Posted 10 Dec 2013 16:25
  • By swoop223
  • joined 23 Mar'12 - 3,691 messages
  • North Carolina, United States
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funny you should say that, just had an intake manifold crack last week, first one I have ran into on this motor.
  • Posted 10 Dec 2013 13:30
  • By jeremy_s
  • joined 28 Mar'08 - 205 messages
  • California, United States
One last effort here......... If your valve lash is good and compression is good along with known good plugs and coil over, check your intake manifold for crack between #1 and #2 cylinders.

I will be surprised if we get a follow up on this one! Thanks edward LOL
  • Posted 10 Dec 2013 11:18
  • By RCAV8TOR
  • joined 12 Nov'11 - 366 messages
  • Alabama, United States
What i used to do all day now takes me all day to do.
It would be awesome to have start and hear on this website (kind of like scratch and sniff in them old reader digest).
  • Posted 10 Dec 2013 11:03
  • By RCAV8TOR
  • joined 12 Nov'11 - 366 messages
  • Alabama, United States
What i used to do all day now takes me all day to do.
You guys are awesome. Thanks for the chuckle.
  • Posted 9 Dec 2013 02:38
  • By rogeriwt
  • joined 10 Apr'07 - 323 messages
  • Massachusetts, United States
swoop & ed, stop that!!
I don't think you guys know how hard it is to clean coffee off of a keyboard and monitor.
  • Posted 9 Dec 2013 01:36
  • By L1ftmech
  • joined 25 Apr'12 - 394 messages
  • Tennessee, United States
Not only would unplugging the coil pack set a code, the computer in these things does such a good job trying to keep it running good that the RPMs don't really drop, and it runs pretty well with only 3 cylinders, at idle you have to be pretty familiar with these motors to even notice the miss, and unless it runs for some long time (usually at idle), it might not even set an O2 sensor code.
I would also make sure it has an air filter installed, as the "throaty" sound this motor make through the air intake without an air filter might be described as "strange and like a miss".

I usually hope that whomever we are communicating with [that has disappeared] has not bent over the motor and gotten their tie caught in the fan. [also just kidding with you, Fabandy]

:-)
  • Posted 9 Dec 2013 00:04
  • Modified 9 Dec 2013 00:11 by poster
  • By edward_t
  • joined 5 Mar'08 - 2,334 messages
  • South Carolina, United States
"it's not rocket surgery"
pops during acceleration?
sounds to me like a burnt valve
i guess it could be a vacuum leak too so I'd eliminate that possibility first but I'm going with the burnt valve.
a simple compression test will confirm if it is or not.

yeah edward I'm curious too how he would know about the spark if it has coil packs on it. I suppose unplugging one while running would tell the story but would also create other issues like codes and limp mode probably.
He hasn't been very responsive in the past couple days....
hope he didnt stick his tongue to it and hurt himself...hehehe
just kidding ;o)

fabandy..... you still there?
  • Posted 8 Dec 2013 22:20
  • By swoop223
  • joined 23 Mar'12 - 3,691 messages
  • North Carolina, United States
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when you say "spark is good" how do you know?
Do you have the cables and software?
How many hours are on this motor? It may be time and the least expensive move to replace all the coil packs and spark-plugs (and as is often noted, use the OEM plugs, and not an auto store's "will fits" in this motor PLEASE, not for you, unless you are who has to remove the plugs next).
Also this truck, as shovel_fx noted above, has an "assistant injector" that must work correctly or you get symptoms like these (mostly under load or acceleration), and there is a "Fast-tas" [idle air volume] learn-in procedure that has to be done with the software, that can also cause these symptoms if certain related components are changed.
AS far as what you are calling "the battery light", and beeping? Is this something that looks like a "d" cell flashlight battery? That is the swing out LPG tank bracket warning. Swing the LPG tank bracket back into place.
  • Posted 8 Dec 2013 10:03
  • Modified 8 Dec 2013 10:07 by poster
  • By edward_t
  • joined 5 Mar'08 - 2,334 messages
  • South Carolina, United States
"it's not rocket surgery"
I have found the valve adjustment tight on the K21 and K25 engines causing a miss several times. I would check the plugs and coils. I think the valve adjustment is.015. Most of the failed sensors will create some type of code except for the assistant injector.
  • Posted 8 Dec 2013 07:28
  • By shovel_fx
  • joined 11 Mar'12 - 41 messages
  • Illinois, United States
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Check your Phase (camshaft) and Pos ( crankshaft ) sensor wiring for possible debris/plastic pull on wires from stuff being spun by cooling fan.
  • Posted 3 Dec 2013 12:43
  • By RCAV8TOR
  • joined 12 Nov'11 - 366 messages
  • Alabama, United States
What i used to do all day now takes me all day to do.
What is the FULL model AND serial Number of the truck??? How many hours are on it?
  • Posted 3 Dec 2013 03:08
  • Modified 3 Dec 2013 03:09 by poster
  • By kevin_t
  • joined 2 Dec'10 - 1,301 messages
  • Pennsylvania, United States

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