First I agree with the Raymond sit-down comment. Second I agree with the rest of your post. I do know that I would not run out there and start training operators with the current training that I have. I might have indicated that in my previous posts. I was having conflicting answers from people that I have contacted locally on wether I needed a certification or not and thats why I was inquiring on my previous certification. I think operator training is serious and can get you in a trick bag quick if your not properly certified. I knew I could get some solid advice and some wisecracks (etharp) here, so I appreciate all posts.
Thanks!!

I never knew that Raymond made sit-downs. (kidding)

1 day of training w/practical, and now you consider yourself a trainer? No offence, my sit-down propane operator training w/practical course for operators is 1 day. My course this Saturday is for sit-down batt/propane, and a second day for novice operators...operator training. 8 modules, whatever that is, done in one day, having not have trained since, does not qualify you to train others. At least I don't think so.

My TTT lasts a week. Sit-down propane/batt only. 1 week for 1 type of lift truck vs. your training on several, in just one day.

I don't know ALABAMA. I would be leary training others, and possibly putting them, and yourself, at risk.

Any others out there who would care to comment?

It was modules 1-8 which is all equipment that raymond offered minus lp if my memory serves me right. It was an all day affair, with hands on and etc.

Allied Associates Material Handling is a Raymond dealer. 2 question: How long was your TTT course? Were all classes of trucks discussed, or only the classes that Raymond offers? What about sit-down, and propane?

I was trained at Associated Material Handling by their designated trainer who trained and certified all the Customer Service Reps. At the time that I worked their it was the responsibility of the Customer Service Rep to certify thier customers in their territory. I dont think it has changed. The training was the safety on the move program. Now that I know longer work there I have had several of my customers inquire on drivers training. I dont think it's a good idea to have your competitors in and out of your customers unless its a must.

Alabama,

Who trained you to become a trainer at your previous employer, is my first question?

Dan

There is nothing in the CSA guidelines regarding the refresher training for trainers. The 3 years is for operators only. CSA B335-4, 6.21.1 Chapter 7 refers to trainers and there is not a word regarding refresher training.

****, there are trainers out there who should not even be training in the first place, but I won't name any in case they are reading this thread.

etharp, I get what your saying and understand the risk involved with drivers tng but all this doesn't answer my initial post. My original question was, does my train the trainer certification that i recieved from my previous employer in 2005 allow me to certify new customers with my present employer. If not, where do I get the certification to train my new customers and my employees.

It's 3 years between refreshers for Oper trainers in Canada. That's CSA. I'm on my 3rd round of refresher training now.

Etharp, I dont know you but it sounds like you have had first hand experience with this problem. Nothing would get done if I took that kind of advice. Its no difference if a mechanic faild to adjust the brakes and the operator drives off a dock. There is liability in everything we do, so I can trust myself in following the guidelines set by Osha to train operators. If ther are operators that are questionable and should not be certified then they dont get the liscense. I have not heard of a case where there have been an accident and the trainer was at fault and if there was I am sure the trainer made poor descisions during class time. If your doing the right thing you shouldnt be worried about a jury.

Lol!!!! Why can't we have emoticons?

What Jury?

I was trained to be a trainer waith a material handling company when I was a customer service rep back in 2005. Since then I have left and work for an independent aerial lift equipment rental company. I was hired to start a forklift service division for them and I was wondering if I can use my certification as a trainer from my former employer to train my customers now. I was certified as a trainer in 2005. If not how do I go about getting trained as a trainer so I can certify my customers as well as my fellow employees. Any advice will be appreciated.
Thanks!

Tony_g:

The U.S. OSHA requlrements for forklift operator trainers are very general and do not include refresher intervals.

OSHA 1910.178(l)(2)(iii): "All operator training and evaluation shall be conducted by persons who have the knowledge, training, and experience to train powered industrial truck operators and evaluate their competence."

tony_g:

In the United States, "forklift certification" should mean that the employer of the forklift operator has certified that the forklift operator has been properly trained according to OSHA 1910.178(l) - Operator Training, and the forklift operator's operational skill and knowledge have been evaluated and have been deemed adequate for the forklift operator to safely operate the forklift(s) which s/he will use.

Certification must comply with OSHA 1910.178(l)(5) - Certfication: "The employer shall certify that each operator has been trained and evaluated as required by this paragraph (l). The certification shall include the name of the operator, the date of the training, the date of the evaluation, and the identity of the person(s) performing the training or evaluation."

Unfortunately, "forklift certification" is a phrase coined by vendors to attempt to market forklift training services or forklift training products. Many vendors advertise they can provide OSHA forklift certification. This is a false claim as only the employer can make the certification.

Employers should be leery of such claims and are advised to compare the products and services of such vendors against the OSHA requirements to ensure they are not wasting their time and money.

OSHA holds the employer of the forklift operator responsible for regulatory compliance and not the vendor.