Discussion:
RTITB vs ITSSAR

I have had Instructor training by both RTITB and ITSSAR. I have found that the mentality of ITSSAR teaches you to never give up and try your very best to get the trainees through the course, give second chances. RTITB I have found to be more stringent, you provide the necessary information to pass the course and basically if they dont deliver, they fail. Having experience from both of these accredited bodies I think that the training I deliver has a fair balance between the two.
  • Posted 18 May 2016 07:00
  • Discussion started by ZZJASEZZ
  • BUCKINGHAMSHIRE, United Kingdom
RTITB F.L.T/MHE INSTRUCTOR/MANUAL HANDLING INSTRUCTOR.
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Hi! I am based in the UAE and looking out to become an MHE Instructor. Could anyone guide me through the process?
Also, I would like to know if the Instructor programs are accredited by ITA, or OSHA or any authority?
Thanks,
Reginald
  • Posted 1 Oct 2017 04:32
  • Reply by reginald
  • Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates
You're correct. From my own personal experience working for both RTITB and ITSSAR, I have dealt with training in the RAF, the Royal Navy and MOD, as well as educational work in the Prison Service, where RTITB has been the preferred accreditation. in fact, I developed the training standards for the vehicle mounted lift truck, the small utility vehicle and the demountable container for the Fire Brigades during their scheme to increase their ability to handle emergencies, in terms of both operator and instructor training, together with conducting instructor examinations for all these specialisms.
  • Posted 17 Aug 2017 21:38
  • Reply by Pusey
  • Somerset, United Kingdom
David
I have done both RTITB, LANTRA and In House training and find RTITB with it's 3 year refresher to be of a good enough standard. Also within Logistics & Warehousing RTITB is the one qualification that most companies seek.

The military, more so the RAF are now using RTITB to train with.
It is seen as a professional qualification that can be transferable from service life to a civilian one.
  • Posted 26 Mar 2017 22:48
  • Modified 26 Mar 2017 22:49 by poster
  • Reply by cb_flt
  • London, United Kingdom
Good morning. I originally trained as an instructor almost 30 years ago & at the time the only choice was to be RTITB registered. David Pusey is as always 100% correct with the evolution of the history of UK Awarding bodies. As commercial trainers & members of the AITT it made commercial sense to become Accredited by RTITB & ITSSAR. Over the years RTITB have been somewhat difficult to work with to the degree that after 30 years we decided to focus our operations around ITSSAR. Now we rarely get asked for RTITB training which means that as our RTITB registrations expire none of us has decided to re-register, which for me is a little sad after an almost 30 year relationship. In my humble opinion the industry needs an awarding body which is more balanced as again in my personal opinion RTITB are a little to rigid & ITSSAR are maybe a little too lax on occasions.
  • Posted 21 Mar 2017 21:14
  • Reply by MaxaM60
  • Bristol, United Kingdom
Instructor, ITSSAR Cat' 4 Tutor
Hi,

As someone who has worked for both organisations, I can only say that the differences between the two are in culture, rather than content.
RTITB arose out of the statutory industry training boards and was the secretariat for the Joint ITB Committee on lift truck operator training. as a result, RTITB printed and published the first Trainer's Guide.
Later, when most ITBs had been disbanded, RTITB continued to develop accredited training systems.
Many trainers became dissatisfied with the approach made by RTITB and set up their own group, The Association of Industrial Truck Trainers (AITT). They determined that accreditation and monitoring of standards should be done independently. the British Industrial Truck Association agreed to set up ITSSAR and house it in their office.
The basic difference was in the training of instructors. RTITB had a formal examination at the end of a training course on a pass or fail basis, which included an associated knowledge test and the presentation of a 30 minute practical lesson.
On the other hand, AITT and ITSSAR elected to have a continuous assessment process which could cover associated knowledge and the abilities to conduct a theory lesson, give a practical demonstration, conduct a practical lesson, set up and conduct a practical skills test, and write an end of training report.
Ultimately, the training of operators should have remained the same.
Over the course of the last few years, RTITB went along the route of operator registration which ITSSAR chose not to follow at the time.
As the original designer of the RTITB registration scheme (NORS), I realised that simply registering operators who had been trained by an accredited organisation was more complex than simply printing certificates and maintaining a operator database. Links into accredited organisations' training programmes, their instructor registrations and abilities, minimum durations of training, the ability to adapt for less inclusion for particular situations grew into a very complex and secure system, made more secure by allowing accredited organisations to enter registrations on line.
Now, both organisations, as well as AITT are recognised in the UK and elsewhere, but the fundamental difference is still in the manner of training and examining / assessing instructors.
  • Posted 1 Dec 2016 22:39
  • Modified 1 Dec 2016 22:42 by poster
  • Reply by Pusey
  • Somerset, United Kingdom
David
Hi ZZJASEZZ

I am wondering about the nationwide validity of ITSSAR vs RTITB

Are they two different organisation?

Is there one more widely recognised un UK ?

What are the main difference that would make me go for one or the other to have my install crew trained (+/- 20 men)

Thanks for the infos

Ben
  • Posted 21 Jul 2016 04:41
  • Reply by BGHubert
  • Quebec, Canada
I am an ITSSAR instructor, and to be fair, I think we are all trying to do the same job. But some instructors are better than others. I always encourage all trainees to do there best and improve as they go on. the bad bits as an operator you are in charge of that machine :) a basic course is just that, so a new operator needs to improve as he or she goes along. I am sure as instructor's we all try to achieve the same result
  • Posted 30 Jun 2016 23:48
  • Reply by andy_r
  • buckinghamshire, United Kingdom

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