Discussion:
the End of Materials Handling as it is known today

The Materials Handling market is about to change. With only around six or seven of the world's manufactures serving. With in the next 10 years most warehouse will be completely different Companies like KION of China DAMATIC or TOYOTA of Japan VANDERLANDE will dominate the warehouse business with hole turnkey products. Pallet trucks, reach trucks VNA truck will all be replaced with automated equipment.

Counter balance forklift sales will also decline and be replaced with complete handling systems that will be able to move products around a facility with out the need of an operator. Out side the facility there will also be big changes Both Diesel and electric forklifts will be replaced with 100% zero emission products that will have much longer ranges then electric forklifts and will be able to handle loads up to 72,000kg while being 100% zero emission. Companies Like Hyster who have backed Hydrogen to the tune of up to $260 million investment will see this disappear as hydrogen forklifts wont be able to compete with the new technologies that will offer lower cost's ,no need for high pressure systems ,be less explosive and more cost effective than hydrogen.
  • Posted 22 Feb 2020 07:11
  • By Exalteze
  • joined 7 Feb'20 - 89 messages
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
Exalt leading the way to a zero emission future
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Hyster isn't currently on YouTube trying to convince everyone their idea will work.
  • Posted 20 Jul 2021 22:24
  • By ChrisK
  • joined 28 Feb'14 - 142 messages
  • Kansas, United States
With many Companies now looking to produce Hydrogen IC engines, Cummins, Toyota JCB all have either built or plan to build an Hydrogen IC engine. whare will this leave the hyster fuel cell program. Hyster via their company Nuvera have invested heavly in the fuel cell business to the tune of a couple of hundred million dollars. That now looks like this might have to be writen off if you add write off for the over payment of the maximal this might lead to over $250 million write down on Hyster Yale.


Now i know all you suporters of Hyster are going to say i'm just trolling Hyster and yes i can understand your point because you all work for either Hyster or a Hyster dealer so this is not good news for you. But just look at the facts a IC engine running on Hydrogen is a round 0ne third of the cost of a Hydrogen fuel cell so some companies might choose this way.

again i don't think even an IC hydrogen engine will be a very good idea because of a couple of reasons. One being they still need hydrogen tanks at 350Bar for storing the fuel. Two they have to greatly lower the compersion ratio meaning a 4.7L 120Kw engine running on hydrogen would only be 80Kw, Three Hydrogen is very explosive and even a small leak can cuase major issues, as Hydrogen leaks are very hard to detect and hydrogen burns without a flame
  • Posted 20 Jul 2021 19:36
  • Modified 20 Jul 2021 19:40 by poster
  • By Letaq60n
  • joined 29 Nov'20 - 83 messages
  • W. Yorkshire, United Kingdom
So what's happened to the super zero emission truck then??
  • Posted 20 May 2021 22:02
  • By mrLifter
  • joined 9 May'10 - 54 messages
  • Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom
Where did you get September? I thought for sure it would be April....again.
  • Posted 15 Mar 2021 23:00
  • By ChrisK
  • joined 28 Feb'14 - 142 messages
  • Kansas, United States
I highly doubt it, this has been going on for over 10 years so about time he turned it in really!
  • Posted 15 Mar 2021 22:30
  • By mrLifter
  • joined 9 May'10 - 54 messages
  • Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom
September 2021 is the new release date. Will it be met?
  • Posted 15 Mar 2021 21:08
  • By heightlift
  • joined 19 Sep'12 - 139 messages
  • North, United Kingdom
please: do not rattle his cage more than you have to.
  • Posted 6 Feb 2021 03:54
  • By triumphrider
  • joined 31 Jan'11 - 304 messages
  • Texas, United States
Been in the industry 30 years, think I may need to be in it another 30 before we see Dave's wonder truck though!!
  • Posted 5 Feb 2021 22:23
  • By mrLifter
  • joined 9 May'10 - 54 messages
  • Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom
Agree with you totally sport 05
  • Posted 5 Feb 2021 22:12
  • By triumphrider
  • joined 31 Jan'11 - 304 messages
  • Texas, United States
It's so great to see that there are still quite a few of us that started as youngsters in the industry! I started selling for Clark in 1974 and have worked in sales and sales management at the dealer level and also worked for OEM's at a mid and senior management levels. I am still working! I remember many years ago when I was a "newbie" salesman, attending my first national sales meeting, one of the top Clark National Account Salesman told me "kid (yes he did call me kid!) you are going to find that you either love this business or hate it. If you love it you will see a lot of interesting things and learn how quite a few things are made. You will also meet a lot of nice and some not so nice people and you will make a decent living." He continued "if you hate it don't kid yourself, get the **** out"! He was right! I guess I loved it as I'm still working in the industry or maybe I'm just a ****!
  • Posted 4 Feb 2021 23:51
  • Modified 5 Feb 2021 23:37 by poster
  • By sport05
  • joined 13 Jan'06 - 34 messages
  • United States
Sport05
Dang, I feel so outclassed with only 22 years in the industry.
  • Posted 28 Jan 2021 23:58
  • By ChrisK
  • joined 28 Feb'14 - 142 messages
  • Kansas, United States
Hi, The range is MiMA Forktrucks.We have literature on rack model in their range. We are Wilmat Ltd and manufactured customised trucks to solve handling problems. We manufacture press tool loading trucks up to 15 tons caps but the MiMA range we can offer up to 30tons capacity Wilmat have never produced a reach truck so we can now offer a range lifting to 11 metres.
Please look at Wilmat and MiMA websites.
  • Posted 22 Jan 2021 02:09
  • By roger_w
  • joined 14 Mar'09 - 12 messages
  • West Midlands, United Kingdom
lifter1937
great to hear someone contributing to the material handling business and sticking with it as long as you.
curious, what brand is your newly china built machine?
do you have any literature introducing it into the market?
tradeshow material?
  • Posted 22 Jan 2021 01:06
  • By swoop223
  • joined 23 Mar'12 - 3,691 messages
  • North Carolina, United States
You've been swooped!
swoop223@gmail.com
Interesting. I started as a Rep in the industry in1959. I sold a wide range of equipment but it included probably some of the first TCM trucks into the UK. I started in business entirely on my own in 1966 selling a range of equipment which I manufactured plus a few Balcancars. I am still working and we are at present introducing a range of quality electric trucks from China (MiMA) in addition to the range of trucks that we manufacture in the UK. So 61 years and still love it. I like to play as well!
  • Posted 22 Jan 2021 00:06
  • By roger_w
  • joined 14 Mar'09 - 12 messages
  • West Midlands, United Kingdom
lifter1937
For what it is worth - started in '67 right out of college w/ A-C, hung up my "lift truck" spurs in 2007. Enjoyed my journey of 41 years.
Here is a heads up for your futures "Old age ain't for sissies." but you will join a new social network community when you go stand in line at your local pharmacy.
Ciao! & Pura Vida! (life is good if you are in Costa Rica)
  • Posted 21 Jan 2021 11:23
  • By johnr_j
  • joined 3 Jun'06 - 1,452 messages
  • Georgia, United States
"Have An Exceptional Day!"
i started back in '77 so whats that? 44?
but whos counting... i quit counting them up a while ago.
Now i'm counting down to retirement ;o)
Not sure when that's gonna be now considering :o/
  • Posted 21 Jan 2021 09:25
  • By swoop223
  • joined 23 Mar'12 - 3,691 messages
  • North Carolina, United States
You've been swooped!
swoop223@gmail.com
I beat you by 3 years mate
  • Posted 21 Jan 2021 08:48
  • By lifter01
  • joined 4 Jul'09 - 461 messages
  • West Yorkshire, United Kingdom
OK , i lied But i do own a hat and a few cows, and this my 36 year in the industry.
  • Posted 20 Jan 2021 22:14
  • By triumphrider
  • joined 31 Jan'11 - 304 messages
  • Texas, United States
As a proud owner of a hat and a few cows I gave serious thought to coming up with a lift powered by cow F-ar-s. Seems like in california the state wants to regulate the naturally produced natural gas so i thought put gas collection packs on the cows, have the farmers pay for it and make my investors very happy. But after spending my investors money on research , i concluded the carbon dioxide produced by the cows does not offset the natural gas produced to provide zero emissions needed to make my claim viable. Btw Jan 4th marked my 36th year in the industry. The lift truck industry not the cow F-ar-s industry
  • Posted 20 Jan 2021 22:10
  • By triumphrider
  • joined 31 Jan'11 - 304 messages
  • Texas, United States
Guess the saga of an zero emission, ammonia eating world beating forklift & it's promoter/inventor backed by wealthy investors went the way of Aesop and his Aesop Fables and Grimms' Fairy Tales by Aesop. In short "all talk no stalk" or as they say in Texas "All Hat and No Cattle"
Check out this link - fairytalez (dot) com
  • Posted 19 Jan 2021 05:11
  • Modified 19 Jan 2021 05:41 by poster
  • By johnr_j
  • joined 3 Jun'06 - 1,452 messages
  • Georgia, United States
"Have An Exceptional Day!"

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