Hi Big Al Fit


Thanks and yes it was a hard task , i do see the data sheet as important because this is were the truck work to heavy and you lose efficiency to wide you lose manoeuvrability.

This truck is up against the Hyster, Taylor, Kalmar Hyundai, and Doosan so it needs to be better than these but unfortunately from the spec it dose not look that way. But time will tell on this.


For us we use the same MTU engine as Linde and we have promoted this engine for years before Linde looked at it, Also the hydrostatic we use is very well proven we are able to back our product with a garaurante of if the truck is down longer than eight hours they get the month rental free. You also pointed out that you have the might of KION behind linde but on KION own web site they say they have around one percent of the North Americain market and in the Middle east it is only a couple of percent.

I also might point out that the people we are working with coukd buy out KION many times over i mean more than ten times over if not more. when you talk about KION you say their are a 4 Billion company , Just one project in the Middle east was over 40 Billion so we are able to compete with any company Globally, but to start with we are just in the Middle East. Were KION don't really compete

linde would have been better Lowering the cost of the 1401 which is a better truck than the 1411 looking at the 1411 it will not cut it in this market.


To me linde going TC will ultimately damage Linde , You can see the linde Sales rep say to the customer the benefits of hydrostatic up to 8 ton then say why to buy a 12 ton TC truck and the customer thinking well if TC is Ok for Linde over 10 ton then why not under 10 ton. This truck will just go against linde in all ways.


Linde did years ago have a TC truck over ten ton with Lansing but decided to replace this with the 1401. now they have just stepped back in time


In fact the only reason Linde did this truck was north america and this will be the undoing of Linde.


But this is a great place to show were I'm wrong and how Linde would be better than the competition