Looking at the Merhtyr plant issue i really believe that Merthyr would still be working today if the still made the 396 6,000kg - 8,000kg truck their. Its a real shame that the plant closed in the way it did i still believe there is a future for the plant with the right product and management. Some of the Linde management who were there understood the business but they were stoped before they could sort the plant out by the closer