In reply to bbforks regarding Clarks demise- it was not a fast fall off a slippery slope- it was a culmination of many years of miscues. I first want to say that I owe Clark a much better than average living over my 34 years representing their product and they are a Co. of the highest integrity. They got a real bump start with sales after wwll with their reputation of building almost indestructable lifts that carried over into industry and were bought by the returning vets now working in these industries. They then hit another home run with the Clarklift C30 to 50 after gettting the "A" model concerns repaired. I saw them as being too slow in re-engineering their products to meet the up and coming competition.I feel that they ignored their Dealer Council as to what the market was asking for and the engineering dep't. was controlled too much by the legal dep't. to keep up with the current specs of their competitors.