Thanks johnr, calls'em like I see's em. Madmen in response to the red and the grey, what happened to the orange? Dont look now, but I think your bias is showing. The orange makes in my opinion the best three wheel sit down out there. Also, 4Y vs C5? I think we all can agree the 4y has got to be the best small block import ever made. The H20 comes in at a close second. Once again, just my opinion.