Joe, tech's are beginning to "bounce". the unfortunate truth is that to get new tech's on board you have to pay them enough to make a change worthwhile. that puts them at or above the established wage of the existing tech's and as soon as word gets out the stampede starts. the stupid thing is that you can keep the good ones for a dollar or watch them walk away for two. then spend three to replace them with a risky new hire that blabs his price and starts the whole avalanche again. i hear from someone every day that is upset that someone makes a dollar more than them or how unfair it is that some one got a new truck before they did. we've been on a wage freeze for a while now so things are about to erupt like vesuvius around here.