and since I don't have a horse with either of those names in this race, I say go with the sales person that is willing to take you to the best place for lunch. both are really good trucks, and both have a cheaper version (medium or lighter duty) that you may wind up with when you start asking about price.
I say if you are at all concerned with price over food/lunch selection, then consider a Big Joe from Big lift. they may turn out to be a major player in the next few years.
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