Okay duodeluxe, I'll bite. In your opinion, who do you think makes the best class 1. Their 3 wheel AC's are just as easy to work on as a pacer, and Ive seen many of these units go over 22,000 hours throughout SoCal. Their 4 wheel units are a little more involved, but they have proven to be a longlasting unit as well. I have seen Raymond- Crowns(SP'RC'and FC). There is a prime example right there. Crowns placement of a plastic hydraulic tank with numerous hose returns right under a leaking battery proved to be a big pain. Also seen Jungheinreichs and Komatsus-TCM's. Give me your favorite unit and lets discuss.