No I am not getting at Engineers or at any particular Branch of the industry,

Just think that the poor wages has attracted some ******** that find ways of making money, other than give good service,

I really am agreeing that all those stupid deals that were done for " volume " are taking their toll.

I did say there are many good people, Even very good people, but the others have brought down the whole industry,

Anyway sorry you are having a bad day , relax you or I won't solve it have a pint and go home.

Good luck.