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MCFA to produce and distribute Jungheinrich forklifts

Good move for Cat - they were lacking in warehouse products. Jungheinrich has good products.

Between the industry moving to electrics and Crown going full line and Raymond getting Toyota support, it makes sense for them to combine forces.

These changes might not have happened if the market was up, so some good things happen when the economy is bad.
  • Posted 14 Aug 2009 01:07
  • Discussion started by dhunter
  • New York, United States
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This is not the first time Jungheinrich has done this. Working as Multiton they allowed everybody and their brother to sell their product only to then allow select dealers to peddle their wears. Now those select dealers who have are on the outside looking in. Nobody ever wants to lose their franchise for new forklift trucks but it is particularly hurtful to a company today since the training, hardware, software and specialty tools are very expensive and extremely brand specific. These expenses weren't even thought of 25 years ago.
Although all dealer contracts are lengthy and ostensibly minute in every detail there is one sentence that negates the whole thing: This contract can be cancelled at any time, by either party with a 30 day written notice.
Personally, I think that it is about time that we draft a "Dealers Bill of Rights".
  • Posted 10 Sep 2009 22:08
  • Reply by duodeluxe
  • United States
duodeluxe
dhunter is missing a very important factor when existing Jungheinrich dealers complain about being betrayed. Trucks currently are manufactured over in Europe and then shipped to the US. There is a thing called the exchange rate, Euro vs dollar! Jungheinrich dealers would have loved the opportunity to sell a product that was made here in the US and not have to deal with being so much higher on price versus the competition. Are there some dealers who underperfomed, ofcourse, but to say that all those loosing the line were underperforming or not loyal is simply ignorant!
  • Posted 9 Sep 2009 04:15
  • Reply by brian_r
  • Illinois, United States
Economic downturn is prime time to expand your business since your investment dollars will go far. MCFA's move was smart and pretty much expected. They didnt have an electric strategy for the future and needed a solution. Some of their dealers were already in talks with Jungheinrich or another strong electric company. All the other major manufacturers are going full line in some form or another (e.g. Toyota-Raymond, Crown LPG truck, Hyster-Yale consolidation etc.).

It is funny to see comments about dealers being betrayed by Jungheinrich, where Jungheinrich would not probably agreed to the merger if they believed their current dealer network could deliver. It is a simple relationship - you deliver and you get rewarded. MCFA is not a dumb company, they will probably lay over territories if the current Jungheinrich dealer is good enough. Dealers who deliver will be fine and others who were not loyal wont.
  • Posted 9 Sep 2009 04:05
  • Reply by dhunter
  • New York, United States
agree with you

P.s. are you a distributor of trucks ? we are a manufacturer of electric stacker,which may interest you.
  • Posted 4 Sep 2009 12:29
  • Reply by wollice
  • jiangsu, China
Any Jungheinrich dealers that are going to be cancelled that need parts, try Intella Liftparts
www. intellaliftparts.com
  • Posted 30 Aug 2009 10:01
  • Reply by M_VANDENTOP
  • Michigan, United States
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intellaparts.com
almost like being a worker in a right to work state...
no guarantees...
  • Posted 27 Aug 2009 07:05
  • Reply by edward_t
  • South Carolina, United States
"it's not rocket surgery"
Or one could say it is like losing your career investment after 15 years of loyal service. Not a good feeling or situation when that well goes dry suddenly.

But no one ever guranteed Hula Hoops would be a fade forever too!
  • Posted 26 Aug 2009 23:10
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
"Have An Exceptional Day!"
Well put! :)
  • Posted 26 Aug 2009 16:14
  • Reply by Billy_B
  • Slovenia, Slovenia
I wonder how bad we should feel for someone who has a gold mine that runs dry.
  • Posted 26 Aug 2009 08:25
  • Reply by edward_t
  • South Carolina, United States
"it's not rocket surgery"
Hello,

Well I must say we had the same experience with STILL in our country. We've been paving for them for 10 years after they have opened their own agency and let us down almost over night. I wonder what will happen to them in this recession which has put the the whole industry to red numbers. They've been putting a lot of machines on lease and they are coming back and have a lot of them in their workshop... They invested a lot of money which will not come back in next 10 years...
  • Posted 26 Aug 2009 08:12
  • Reply by Billy_B
  • Slovenia, Slovenia
Johnr your right. The only honor and loyalty left is as a tech to the customer and to your family. Dealerships come and go unfortunatly. I have had owners and factory dealerships alike expect the same from me over the years, and they never failed to let me down at some point in time down the line.
  • Posted 26 Aug 2009 03:19
  • Modified 26 Aug 2009 03:20 by poster
  • Reply by chublil
  • California, United States
Fix it right!!!
You are correct in your comments, unfortunately volume & $$ often are the main drivers of many decisions and honor & loyalty take a back burner.
  • Posted 26 Aug 2009 03:10
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
"Have An Exceptional Day!"
Johnr_j

Guys of yours and my generation have seen this many times before, however you don't have to behave like "Jungle" people to be successful. Look at Toyota , nobody could say that about them ( I have never worked for them in any way ) and they are probably the size of the next 3 or 4 competitors all lumped together.

Sometimes honour enters the long term strategy.
  • Posted 26 Aug 2009 01:33
  • Reply by Normandy
  • Co. Cork, Ireland
littlespar:
Jungheinrich is not alone in that approach.
  • Posted 25 Aug 2009 22:07
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
"Have An Exceptional Day!"
I have always believed that the fork lift industries is really a dog eat dog world. Jungheinrich really doesn't care about anyone... including their one people... but themselves. This did not brew over night, they used the independents to pave the road and now they drive over them to further their goals. Someone earlier stated it best "a leopard doesn't change his spots."
  • Posted 25 Aug 2009 05:57
  • Reply by littlespark
  • Pennsylvania, United States

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