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Looking for an exchange of ideas on training

Hi everybody, I am Jan, manager of a Belgian training centre for forklifts, reachtrucks and all other kinds of machinery.
As I am always looking for a way to exchange ideas and get the feel of other people on training, I would like to go to the USA or another English speaking country where I could experience first hand the way other people get trained and hopefully come back with a lot of ideas on many different subjects as course programmes, training techniques, practical exercises,...

Is there any training company that can offer me this experience ? I will pay for all expenses like travel expenses, hotel room, food,... of course and I am offering the same experience (if desired) here in Belgium.

Thanks very much in advance

Jan Van der Heyden
General Manager
Logan
Belgium
  • Posted 27 Jul 2006 21:41
  • Discussion started by jay_vee
  • antwerp, Belgium
The best prevention is an excellent training
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Dear Jay Vee,

If you are still planning a trip to the US for forklift training information, please consider a visit to the OSHA (Occupational Safety and Health Administration) Technical Data Center. As a result of their work on the latest "powered industrial truck operator training" rule, they accumulated, not only official government information on why the new OSHA training rule was put into affect, but also there is written testimony from many experienced US trainers; video and text materials of complete training programs from many Manufactures; and, of course, the hearing transcript (...if you dare read its 400+ pages of oral testimony and administrative law procedings) The OSHA Technical Data Center offers a comprehensive understanding of how and why regulatory-based trainig is performed in the United States. If you go to the Technical Data Center in Washington, ask to see ALL the files on "DOL Docket #S-008; Powered Industrial Truck Operator Training.). My experience is that they are quite responsive and helpful, there. For Information on the "Full Text of Testimony" that I submitted during the S-008 Hearing, surf to LIFTOR DOT COM.

Best wishes,

Joe Monaco
LIFTOR DOT COM
732-563-4430
  • Posted 22 Dec 2006 08:05
  • Reply by joe_m
  • New Jersey, United States
www.LIFTOR.com
Operator/Examiner Certification for In-House Supervisors
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I could not agree more with Dan M, hands on training is the only possibility for a decent training. However, as far as the theoretical part is concerned (in Belgium we have to teach them some laws, rules and regulations concerning liability, charge diagrammes,...) this can be done through an interactive course eg on Internet.

We are currently looking into this to shorten the training time for some companies who have experienced people who just need to take a course in order to get their certificate. They can study things at home, take an exam with us in 30 minutes or so and then do a practical exam.

This of course is not an option in the case of inexperienced drivers
  • Posted 15 Nov 2006 01:24
  • Reply by jay_vee
  • antwerp, Belgium
I, as a lift truck trainer, do not believe in long distance training. On-hands training, done properly, is a billion times more effective than a computer program. For example...say you come down with a serious illness or injury, do you want a doctor who took internet courses, and apparently graduated, to look after you, or a doctor who graduated from a university who had hands-on training and instruction? When we talk about the dynamics of a forklift, analogies and explanations must be incorporated into the discussion to allow the trainees to fully comprehend the principles, something an internet program cannot offer. Interaction between teacher and student is paramount when providing training on safety, especially forklifts, which account for a high percentage of workplace injuries and deaths.

Just my 2 cents Canadian.
  • Posted 15 Nov 2006 00:18
  • Modified 15 Nov 2006 00:18 by poster
  • Reply by dan_m
  • Ontario, Canada
I'm interested in Internet/Distance Learning Operator Training programs and would like to hear from anyone familiar with such programs, especially those who have actually taken or completed one. What content do they cover? Are tests comprehensive? Difficult? What materials furnished or required? Cost range? Where did you find them? Your comments and opinions. Bud Cohan at [email address removed]
  • Posted 14 Nov 2006 15:30
  • Reply by budcoh
  • Ohio, United States
DIRTFT -- (an acronymn for do it right the first time)
jay vee

Trust you received my email from earlier this week. Oct 14 for theory and some experienced testing, and the 15th for novice operators, tutoring and practice.

Still at the college and you are more than welcome to sit in as a guest.

You have got me email. Let me know.

And although there are no direct flights from Ottawa to Ohio, a short 1 hour flight (jet, not prop) to Toronto and a connecting flight to Columbus (prop) or Cleveland (small jet) (approx 1 hr. 1 hr+ each) can allow you to visit both parties in one trip.

Sounds like a plan to me.

Danny
  • Posted 25 Sep 2006 09:24
  • Modified 25 Sep 2006 09:28 by poster
  • Reply by dan_m
  • Ontario, Canada
Dear, it would be very nice to come over. Unfortunately your e-mailadress was blocked in the forum. Could you send me some more info at jan.vanderheyden at logan.be

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards
  • Posted 22 Sep 2006 21:12
  • Reply by jay_vee
  • antwerp, Belgium
The best prevention is an excellent training
We would be happy to have you come to our location in the US for training as well. We offer a 2 day trainers class and good materials to go with it. US OSHA is a specialty of ours, we travel all over the USA and consult with many fortune 500 companies on forklift safety, expert witness testimony, accident investigations, etc. I can send you very detailed information if you email me at [email address removed] We also write articles for the best forklift publication in the world - Forklift Action!
  • Posted 22 Sep 2006 02:06
  • Reply by Panthertrainer
  • Ohio, United States
September 9th, and possibly 10th. Up to now, the college has only been providing 1-day courses to the public and people were complaining that it is no fair becuase they were not as experienced (first-timers) as others on the course.
So this fall, we are testing the waters to see if these newbies are willing to cough up extra cash to spend the entire second day (Sunday) with me to earn more experience and gain more confidence on the forklift. I think it is great but many of the participants coming to this courses are unemployed and may not have the extra cash. BTW, we are not looking at much money at all. A bargain in most people's eyes.

So, yes, it involves theory and practical. Theory starts at 800AM and practical, approx 4:30PM. Full day. I never get outof there until 9-10PM, minimum.

There you have it. Best is to email me. Go to this site's home page and on left side look for BUSINESS DIRECTORY, click it and it brings you to a search page. Quick search Canada + Business Management Training and at the bottom of the blue box, you will see Ideal Forklift Training. That is me! Click Ideal Forklift Training and the ability to email me pops up.

Thanks.

Danny
  • Posted 4 Aug 2006 22:29
  • Modified 4 Aug 2006 22:30 by poster
  • Reply by dan_m
  • Ontario, Canada
Hi Danny, thank you very much for the invitation. Could you tell me when exactly the courses take place ? I would really like to compare the ways of training between the two parts of the world. Are your trainings theoretical and/or practical ?

Thanks.

Jan
  • Posted 4 Aug 2006 19:44
  • Reply by jay_vee
  • antwerp, Belgium
Hi Jay,

I am an independent consultant providing training to many large corporations in the Ottawa (Canada) region. I am also an Associate Professor at a university for forklift training as well. Probably the best place to bring you. 1 + 2 day courses (for the inexperienced). I cover off sit-down, both battery and propane.

I self-design my PowerPoint presentations for each class of lift truck and (pat my back), they are really effective, and good. My manuals are probably just about the best on the continent.

From here, you can go to Toronto, or the States to continue your research.

Next college course is in September. If I can be of assistance, just reply to this board. No emails allowed here.

Danny
  • Posted 4 Aug 2006 01:10
  • Modified 4 Aug 2006 01:13 by poster
  • Reply by dan_m
  • Ontario, Canada

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