Just my two cents worth. Life is full of new policies, laws, etc. that we don't agree with & sometimes very strongly. I have followed a simple three step approach to resolving issues. These are: 1.) Constructively work with the appropriate persons/group involved to resolve valid concerns; 2.) Accept it for what it is or 3.) if you can't or don't want to do #1 or #2, simply Leave the situation.

Quit often following #1 will produce positive change(s) and it is a bit more fun.

if u park ure van up at night and someone decides to scratch your van u have to pay for it a lot of customer sites dont accecpt responsibilty if your van gets damaged on site and there is signs up telling u that before enter so in theory if someone runs into ure van its your problem even if its not your fault.
But thing is edward there is no way any company is going to give any engineer an increase to compensate the charge it will defeat the object of introducing this rule.
I now no how a customer feels when they are getting hit with damage at the end of the contract and how high the bill is when the truck will probably get scrapped or sent to a mart just another money making exercise.

back to the original post, I would have no problem with signing the new contract, as long as I now had an increase in yearly compensation equal to what the maximum charge could be.

coal miner my hats off to you

wigan st hellens bickershaw was in the mines at 11 years of age pit ponys the bird in a cage soo sad when u think of it u think we have it tough regards coal miner

towmotor, so was i , and my father before me and his father, you cant tell me anything about pride , a modern industry requires a modern union, the unions of the 70s/80s, is not what i am suggesting, no hard feelings towmotor, where was your father a miner.

coal miner my father was a coal miner for many many years use the name with pride regards

what about creating a uk forklift engineers union, anybody up for it,


"strength in unity"

Good for you all! interestingly, your employee will be doing the same to your customers when the leases come to an end.
It's about time the engineers in this industry stood and be counted!

Well im not going to sign the new driving policy and from what i gather all the other engineers are not signing it either there also want u to agree to allowing them to pass on information about u to other organisation and even things like a scratch or any dents thats havent been fixed in the time u had the van its all chargeable to the driver or engineer this is all about trying to save money buying puting cost to the engineers instead.The daft thing about it how on earth are the going to recruit future engineers with a policy like that engineers are like gold dust in the uk and lets face for what a modern engineer does they are not paid well for what they do because an engeer is on the frontline dealing with customers but they dont see it that way.
The way i look on it the possible bills u could get of a lease company for damage could be quite high and it would probably cheaper to jack in or get sacked and look for a job rather than agree to that because at the end of the day thats were the lease company will make there money on repairs at the end of the lease.

I had a van stolen from a job site as the tech was working out of it , the guy unpluged the air hose going to the compressor , shut the doors , and took off , all the wile my tech was under the forklift. Maby I shoul charge the tech ?

true so very true

same old story,when the going gets tough,the engineers take an *** kicking,meanwhile the managers drive mercs and beamers,work in ivory towers deciding which part of the world they will hold their next pointless meeting in!.....sorry went off the subject a bit there!

Dont sign the piece of paper,employment rights act says that if you do not give them permission they cannot take any money out of your wages.Except PAYE & Nat Insurance,hence they want you to sign the letter.

I've never heard of any employee ever having to pay for anything that happens to the vans in the USA. And there has been some doozys........ crashes, blown motors, broken windows, tip over on it's side.