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Carton Clamp use in racking.

I've yet to see an operation that uses carton clamps to place loads (without pallets) into single-deep pallet rack as a regular part of their operation. I realize the racking would need to be decked, may need wider load beams to give greater clearance for clamp, and may need deeper rack since no overhang support from a pallet.

Does anyont have any experience with this, and is there anything I'm missing? I don't have a current application for this, but would just like to know for future reference since I seem to be running into more operations that use carton clamps in recent years.
  • Posted 9 Aug 2013 01:35
  • By InventoryOps
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I'll add that there are operations where items come in floorloaded in containers and may be shipped out without pallets (floor loaded or parcel shipments) therefore they don't want to invest in and handle a bunch of slave pallets. In addition, the wrapped load without the pallet may be smaller than the load on the pallet due to using standard pallets but having various sizes of loads (some smaller than a pallet) so there may be some depth and width space savings there in addition to the height savings associated with the pallet.
These operations typically floorstack most of these loads in bulk floor storage, but may also have some need for storage in selective rack.
  • Posted 13 Aug 2013 03:21
  • By InventoryOps
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A lot of white goods in Europe don't come on pallets, they come wrapped in polystyrene & plastic wrap.
  • Posted 12 Aug 2013 20:45
  • By Forkingabout
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Saves vertical space height by the height of the pallet (~4"-5") at each pallet beam plus the floor level bays. Space saving is based on the number of total storage bays. Remember the use a of of Euro pallets on the other side of the pond and as I recall they are higher vs our GMA style pallets.
  • Posted 12 Aug 2013 05:39
  • By johnr_j
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What would be the advantage of using carton clamps instead of pallets?
  • Posted 12 Aug 2013 04:19
  • Modified 12 Aug 2013 04:20 by poster
  • By bbforks
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Yes, once the racking was all corrected, working with the clamp trucks was fine.

The company only fitted out 1 block of a large warehouse for clamp truck operation.

The clamp attachments where bought to retrofit on to existing trucks.

Racking company just supplied & installed to the plans they where given, they had no input or say on the original design plan.
  • Posted 10 Aug 2013 03:50
  • By Forkingabout
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Wow.
I'm surprised they didn't come down, observe the problem, tell you to only put 2 on the shelves, pat themselves on the back, and claim success.

I don't think calling that a mistake even comes close to describing what they did. If they would have run their plan by either the clamp truck vendor or the racking vendor, this almost certainly would have been caught. And even without outside input, why they wouldn't at least just buy and set up a couple sections of rack as a test before doing the whole warehouse is beyond me. Unfortunately the type of people that make this level of bad decisions tend to not learn from their mistakes-or even acknowledge them.

Anyway, thanks for the input. Once they got the beam widths right, did everything work OK?
  • Posted 10 Aug 2013 03:00
  • By InventoryOps
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  • Wisconsin, United States
Somedays your a diamond, some days a chunk of coal.
  • Posted 9 Aug 2013 19:47
  • By johnr_j
  • joined 3 Jun'06 - 1,452 messages
  • Georgia, United States
Previous warehouse I looked after decided to get some clamp equipped trucks to store new white good's in the rack.

Suits from upstairs came & measured up, decided exactly what they wanted, came up with some plans & had a company come in to install all the new racking to the plan they gave them.

It all went horribly wrong when they tried to load the rack & realise the suit who had measured up had forgot to take into account the extra width of the clamp blades & also that the clamp need's to be opened slightly to drop the load.
The gap the suits had stated on the plans was just for 3 item's width without any extra space for the clamp blades, all the racking had to be dismantled again & reinstalled after the suits adjusted the measurements.

The only people laughing where the racking company as they got paid a 2nd time to come back & put the suits mistake right.
  • Posted 9 Aug 2013 03:13
  • By Forkingabout
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  • england, United Kingdom

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